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st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 12:59 AM

125 Gallon Display Tank / 32 Gallon Frag Tank
 
So I decided to do a tank journal. I will have a display tank and frag tank side by side that will have the same sump. I am going the Triton Method as well.
Tanks:

125 Gallon 60L x 24W x 20H. 3- sided Starfire, Starfire Eurobrace, External Overflow (3 - 1" Drains, Bean Animal Design), 2- 1" Returns, Vinyl Back and Bottom.


32 Gallon Frag Tank. 30L x 24W x 10H. 3-Sided Starfire, Starfire Eurobrace, External Overflow (2 - 1" Drains, Herbie Design), 2 - 3/4" Returns, Vinyl Back and Bottom.

Stands:
125 Gallon: Custom Metal Stand - Powder Coated (black)
32 Gallon Frag: Custom Metal Stand - Powder Coated (black)

Plumbing:
125 Gallon and 32 Gallon Frag Tank:
All Sched 80 Piping and Fittings. Various Sizes.
Lighting:

125 Gallon: 2 - Radion Gen 3 Pros. I may add one more in the future.
32 Gallon Frag: 1 - Radion Gen 3

Sump:
125 Gallon and FragTank: 56 1/2L x 20W x 16H

28L x 20W x 16H Refugium, 14L x 20W x 16H Skimmer Section w/ adjustable baffle, 7L x 20W x 16H Return, 7W x 20W x 16H ATO Section.
5 - 1" Bulkhead Drains, 2 - 1" Bulkhead Returns, 4 Probe Holders, 2 - Heater Holders, 7 Dosing Line Holes.

It's a custom made acrylic sump by Elite Aquatics. It is currently under construction. I will upload a photo to give you and idea of what it looks like. It's all black with clear windows in each baffle area. It is going to be a Triton Method sump.

Return Pump:
Vectra M1 2000 GPH.

Equipment Undecided On:
Skimmer, Media Reactors, Reactor Pump, Controller (Apex or GHL?), Doser, Powerheads (Gyre or MP40's?), ATO System, Fuge Light, and what ever else I can't think of at the moment. If anyone could give me any recommendations on any equipment that would work well with this system please let me know.

WarDog 01-05-2018 01:12 AM

Nice, following along. What kind of livestock are you aiming for?

st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 01:18 AM

Tank Update
 
So today I realized that my stand is upside down! Does anyone on the forum know where to get suction cups?

Also I picked up some more plumbing parts. Man this hobby is expensive. I have a contractor discount and it still cost me an arm and a leg!

st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 02:23 AM

Reposting Images
 
So I guess Photobucket is a pay to see site now and some people can't see the images I have posted. So here are the photos again that are loaded to a different site.

https://i.imgur.com/tgUgYNRl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zK59b6ul.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SEJuko1l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NLiTV6zl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Bhy1pZcl.jpg

st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 1022640)
Nice, following along. What kind of livestock are you aiming for?


I would like a full SPS tank I think. Still thinking about it at the moment. I really like Zoas too! As for fish I really like Tangs and Wrasses. I haven't figured out exactly which ones I'd like though.

Tigweldpro 01-05-2018 02:49 AM

Awesome
 
This is a smaller version of my dream setup!

And yes powder coated stands and what not do add up fast lol

Why are you wanting to go triton right out of the gate?

ill be following along on this.
Do you have a water fill date?

Ram3500 01-05-2018 03:11 AM

That's one sharp setup 👍

st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigweldpro (Post 1022645)
This is a smaller version of my dream setup!

And yes powder coated stands and what not do add up fast lol

Why are you wanting to go triton right out of the gate?

ill be following along on this.
Do you have a water fill date?

Thanks! Well I’ve been taking my time and doing things properly. I’ve had a few builds in the past to learn from.

I have always wanted A Fuge to begin with and I want to try something different. Let’s not forget about not having to do water changes!

Mattyb 01-05-2018 04:17 AM

Looks awesome!! Welcome back toThe hobbie Eric! And I see u moved. Wicked set up! I’ll be following along with the build

DKoKoMan 01-05-2018 08:41 AM

Looks awesome! Who did the tank build? Make sure you post some photos of the plumbing once your finished and the bean animal. :smile:

st0rmtr000pa 01-05-2018 04:14 PM

Quote:

Looks awesome!! Welcome back toThe hobbie Eric! And I see u moved. Wicked set up! I’ll be following along with the build
Thanks! I stopped for a bit because I moved into a condo and couldn’t fill my tank there. I finally moved into a place where I could start my build again. Couldn’t be happier about it lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKoKoMan (Post 1022657)
Looks awesome! Who did the tank build? Make sure you post some photos of the plumbing once your finished and the bean animal. :smile:

I had Concept build it. I’ll be sure to take some photos. I’m a plumber so it should turn out nice. The sump should be here in a couple of weeks. I wish it would just get here lol.

dave_C 01-05-2018 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0rmtr000pa (Post 1022667)
Thanks! I stopped for a bit because I moved into a condo and couldn’t fill my tank there. I finally moved into a place where I could start my build again. Couldn’t be happier about it lol.



I had Concept build it. I’ll be sure to take some photos. I’m a plumber so it should turn out nice. The sump should be here in a couple of weeks. I wish it would just get here lol.

Don't plumb that tank!!! lol

call me I total forget about this:redface:, I want to rebuild your tank and send you new one

Thanks Dave

Mattyb 01-05-2018 10:01 PM

U can rebuild mine too if u like if ur offering lol😜

dave_C 01-05-2018 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyb (Post 1022678)
U can rebuild mine too if u like if ur offering lol😜

but i don't reminder any issues with yours lol just the stand:redface:

Mattyb 01-05-2018 10:07 PM

I know, just buggin ya. I love my tank. And the stand!! My next build I would do it differently though. Only problem with my tank is it won’t grow coral😞 seems like nothing will survive since I moved everything over.

st0rmtr000pa 01-06-2018 02:27 AM

New Tank
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_C (Post 1022677)
Don't plumb that tank!!! lol

call me I total forget about this:redface:, I want to rebuild your tank and send you new one

Thanks Dave

Wow really?!?! I have left my contact info in a PM. This is why I go through Concept for my builds! Top notch service and their tanks turn out awesome!

st0rmtr000pa 01-06-2018 06:56 PM

New Tank
 
So I just spoke to Dave at Concept and he is building me a new tank! He’s adding some new features to it which will make it even better than before. Great customer service! I’ll be selling the old tank if anyone is interested. Looks like I’ll be waiting not only for my sump but a new tank as well :biggrin:.

Frogger 01-06-2018 11:39 PM

That was one short tank journal. Started yesterday, tank for sale today.

kyl 01-07-2018 01:12 AM

Tis the season for tank builds. What are you going to get changed from the original build? I think everyone can live and learn when they get something custom built..

DorySaid 01-07-2018 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0rmtr000pa (Post 1022721)
So I just spoke to Dave at Concept and he is building me a new tank! He’s adding some new features to it which will make it even better than before. Great customer service! I’ll be selling the old tank if anyone is interested. Looks like I’ll be waiting not only for my sump but a new tank as well :biggrin:.

You're welcome

WarDog 01-07-2018 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_C (Post 1022677)
I want to rebuild your tank and send you new one

Thanks Dave

I must have missed something.... why are you getting the tank rebuilt?

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogger (Post 1022732)
That was one short tank journal. Started yesterday, tank for sale today.

The tank is being replaced with a new one.

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyl (Post 1022734)
Tis the season for tank builds. What are you going to get changed from the original build? I think everyone can live and learn when they get something custom built..


Well for the back piece it is currently acrylic CNC'd with teeth and now he wants to do it with vinyl wedged between two pieces of glass instead of the acrylic so its easier to clean. I'll show pictures ones I have the new tank here.

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DorySaid (Post 1022738)
You're welcome

Who are you?

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 1022739)
I must have missed something.... why are you getting the tank rebuilt?


The teeth on the overflow go over too far. Its just cosmetic.

Left Side
https://i.imgur.com/oorrrsXl.jpg

Right Side
https://i.imgur.com/mjqJWSsl.jpg

kien 01-07-2018 06:24 PM

Wow. I didn’t even get teeth on my overflow! Wonder if Dave will build me a new tank. Nevermind that my tank didn’t come from concepts..

Anyway, great deal. Farewell 125 Gallon Display Tank. We hardly knew you at all.

kyl 01-07-2018 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0rmtr000pa (Post 1022777)
Well for the back piece it is currently acrylic CNC'd with teeth and now he wants to do it with vinyl wedged between two pieces of glass instead of the acrylic so its easier to clean. I'll show pictures ones I have the new tank here.

I got the laminated glass option Dave wants to do on yours on my 4' shallow, it looks excellent.

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyl (Post 1022782)
I got the laminated glass option Dave wants to do on yours on my 4' shallow, it looks excellent.

Do you have pics of what it looks like? I’m kind worried about it not turning out that great. I actually don’t mind the acrylic back but it would make it a lot easier to clean.

kyl 01-07-2018 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0rmtr000pa (Post 1022783)
Do you have pics of what it looks like? I’m kind worried about it not turning out that great. I actually don’t mind the acrylic back but it would make it a lot easier to clean.

This is what I have online:
https://flic.kr/p/21MUEbY
https://flic.kr/p/DCfWdg
https://flic.kr/p/DCfWtM

Skimmer Juice 01-07-2018 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st0rmtr000pa (Post 1022777)
Well for the back piece it is currently acrylic CNC'd with teeth and now he wants to do it with vinyl wedged between two pieces of glass instead of the acrylic so its easier to clean. I'll show pictures ones I have the new tank here.

I just got a tank from there I wish I knew that was an option , looks so much better IMO . I got a white acrylic back so it would have worked really well for saving me cleaning time .

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyl (Post 1022785)

Wow! It looks great. Well I’m looking forward to having this on my new tank. Looks sleek. Plus added thickness of glass is always welcomed.

kyl 01-07-2018 09:09 PM

Yeah, I believe it was MattyB that showed me a picture of his and I went with it. It did add probably 5% to the cost, but very much worth it vs the acrylic insert. I wish I had gotten the same for the frag tank.

st0rmtr000pa 01-07-2018 10:17 PM

So I found a buyer for my 125 Gallon tank. Now I just have to wait 3 weeks to receive the new tank from Concept. I have to start focusing on items to get this build running and cycling once the tank and sump arrive. I need some rock (macro rock / real reef rock), titanium heaters, power heads (mp40’s or gyre), RODI unit and some salt.



Quote:

Originally Posted by kyl (Post 1022793)
Yeah, I believe it was MattyB that showed me a picture of his and I went with it. It did add probably 5% to the cost, but very much worth it vs the acrylic insert. I wish I had gotten the same for the frag tank.

Well I’m glad I decided to go with it. Yah my frag tank will still have the acrylic insert.

kyl 01-07-2018 11:10 PM

Look forward to seeing the build :thumb:

smokinreefer 01-08-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skimmer Juice (Post 1022787)
I just got a tank from there I wish I knew that was an option , looks so much better IMO . I got a white acrylic back so it would have worked really well for saving me cleaning time .

I didn't know it was an option either.
looks great!

they really need to go over all their options with customers...
you'd think it would be win-win for everyone.

you get a nicer finished tank, which you pay more for, which leads to more referrals and revenue for them...

anyways have fun with the upgrade!

kyl 01-08-2018 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinreefer (Post 1022821)
I didn't know it was an option either.
looks great!

they really need to go over all their options with customers...
you'd think it would be win-win for everyone.

you get a nicer finished tank, which you pay more for, which leads to more referrals and revenue for them...

anyways have fun with the upgrade!

I'm hopeful that Dave gets things humming given the changes that have been talked about. I would really suggest that some literature be created to reflect all that they can do as options.

I did what I felt was a lot of homework with modelling the tanks and sump in SketchUp and pestered quite a few tank owners here, on FB groups and in person. Still, I found some cosmetic things that were overlooked because I didn't know, and would want on future builds (like black vinyl on the bottom of the tank to hide that plywood).

Not saying the tank isn't beautiful, they did a great job. Just you know, it wasn't the smoothest process. I'm hoping to get a nice ~200 gallon peninsula later this year or early next year and wouldn't hesitate to go through Dave again.

dave_C 01-08-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyl (Post 1022825)
I'm hopeful that Dave gets things humming given the changes that have been talked about. I would really suggest that some literature be created to reflect all that they can do as options.

I did what I felt was a lot of homework with modelling the tanks and sump in SketchUp and pestered quite a few tank owners here, on FB groups and in person. Still, I found some cosmetic things that were overlooked because I didn't know, and would want on future builds (like black vinyl on the bottom of the tank to hide that plywood).

Not saying the tank isn't beautiful, they did a great job. Just you know, it wasn't the smoothest process. I'm hoping to get a nice ~200 gallon peninsula later this year or early next year and wouldn't hesitate to go through Dave again.

this is not an excuse but I only allow one person to handle tank quotes and builds and at times it can get overwhelming. Since I took back over the quoting and handling of builds I can see where some details get glossed over. Sometimes, ok most times we get emails asking for a price on a XXX gallon tank with no other info and it is like pulling teeth too get the right info to properly quote the tank they want.

I think going forward when we get a request for pricing the first question I will ask is, do you want a cheap but holds water tank, a good but not perfect tank or an all out baller tank lol and than work out details with the customers.

We can do a lot with glass and with the CNC table coming in the next month or so there will have a lot we can offer for acrylic too.

I am currently working on a request work sheet with all that we can offer, so in the future it should be a lot smoother process :mrgreen:

I will look forward to working with you on the new build.

Thanks Dave

kyl 01-08-2018 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_C (Post 1022829)
this is not an excuse but I only allow one person to handle tank quotes and builds and at times it can get overwhelming. Since I took back over the quoting and handling of builds I can see where some details get glossed over. Sometimes, ok most times we get emails asking for a price on a XXX gallon tank with no other info and it is like pulling teeth too get the right info to properly quote the tank they want.

I think going forward when we get a request for pricing the first question I will ask is, do you want a cheap but holds water tank, a good but not perfect tank or an all out baller tank lol and than work out details with the customers.

We can do a lot with glass and with the CNC table coming in the next month or so there will have a lot we can offer for acrylic too.

I am currently working on a request work sheet with all that we can offer, so in the future it should be a lot smoother process :mrgreen:

I will look forward to working with you on the new build.

Thanks Dave

I don't want to hi-jack the build thread too much but Dave, I felt you did the best you could given everything going on and I still appreciate the long phone call to get things straightened out and the updates after that. So far so good with the tanks.

Now back to the regularly scheduled build thread!

st0rmtr000pa 01-09-2018 01:24 AM

So I picked up some goodies today. I bought a ReefLink so I can mess around with my lights while I wait for my tank and sump as well as have controllability over my Vectra pump when the time comes. I also bought an Apex flow meter for when I do the plumbing. I'm trying to avoid plumbing in anything after is has water in the lines. Also a member also told me to go with the flatter nozzles than the more direct nozzles so I decided to do that and got some of those. Not a huge update but it's something.

Does anyone here have experience with the Reeflink and the WXM module? Any big differences between the two?

https://i.imgur.com/rku6kApl.jpg?1

Bblinks 01-09-2018 03:13 AM

Still selling the frag tank? ��


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