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MarkoD 03-24-2014 09:18 PM

Rinse frozen food or not?
 
Just wondering how many people rinse frozen food.

FishyFishy! 03-24-2014 09:25 PM

I always rinse in a small bowl with tap water (or RO/DI if i'm not lazy) until all the cloudiness goes away. Not sure if there is any benefit to either way, but I like to see less cloudiness in my aquarium after feeding.

MarkoD 03-24-2014 10:03 PM

But the cloudy stuff is all the fine particles that feed corals

But it's probably packed with phosphates

Madreefer 03-24-2014 10:07 PM

I cant vote cuz I make all my own food which is way chaeper and more nutritious than that store bought stuff. I'm convinced that "that cloudy stuff" is pretty much all phosphates. I do use PE Mysis in my recipe and it is rinsed extensively before added.

mark 03-24-2014 10:13 PM

might of bought into a myth since never tested for PO4 but rinse anyways. Maybe I should throw in a cube without rinsing and test if my phosphate rises.

FishyFishy! 03-24-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 888284)
I cant vote cuz I make all my own food which is way chaeper and more nutritious than that store bought stuff. I'm convinced that "that cloudy stuff" is pretty much all phosphates. I do use PE Mysis in my recipe and it is rinsed extensively before added.


Exactly my thoughts.

Coralgurl 03-24-2014 10:21 PM

I thaw my frozen food in a cup of tank water, drain, then feed the fish. I don't "rinse" it. I see too much fleshy stuff going down the drain as it is. Mysis and Phytoplankton. was told the PP didn't need rinsing, thaw and feed.

I get phosphate issues feeding pellets. Stop pellets, cyano goes away. Feed pellets exclusively for a week or more, cyano comes back.

Simmy 03-24-2014 10:39 PM

I use PE mysis and I rinse it in tapwater through a metal strainer before I feed it to my fish.

Aquattro 03-24-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Simmy (Post 888291)
I use PE mysis and I rinse it in tapwater through a metal strainer before I feed it to my fish.

Same, but plastic strainer. My corals eat light!

SeaHorse_Fanatic 03-25-2014 12:04 AM

My friend tested his PE mysis before rinsing and said it had phosphates. We've been draining/straining the melt water (at least) ever since. When I'm not lazy I rinse through a fine mesh net using tap water.

Treebeard 03-25-2014 01:15 AM

No doubt it has phosphates, but I believe that adding a couple of ounces of it to a 120 gallon system will have a negligible affect. And besides thats why I run gfo and bio-pellets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 888303)
My friend tested his PE mysis before rinsing and said it had phosphates. We've been draining/straining the melt water (at least) ever since. When I'm not lazy I rinse through a fine mesh net using tap water.


iceman86 03-25-2014 02:22 AM

The cloudy water is full of phosphates. Run a test and put in a drop and you'll see how much there is. My color changed drastically and since then ive always rinsed

CoralMuncher 03-25-2014 02:35 AM

I've always always rinsed. Never dared to think about putting a cube in without rinsing! The stuff that runs out probably feeds the algae more than the corals.
I target feed my corals whatever I feed my fish.

Same method as others. Place the cube in a fine mesh and run tap water through it until water runs clear.

I'm surprised this many people don't rinse.

Wheelman76 03-25-2014 03:36 AM

Good article on the subject by Randy Holmes Farley

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

tlhood 03-25-2014 03:47 AM

I have some phosphate issues in my tank as it is, so I started rinsing in a small cup with some tank water. Couldn't hurt.

cheeseman 03-25-2014 04:26 AM

Don't do it.... packed with phosphates... be alright if you were growing algae... lol

Madreefer 03-25-2014 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 888342)
Good article on the subject by Randy Holmes Farley

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

Haha I just came on to put the same article up. Interesting read but I'd still rinse.

Wheelman76 03-25-2014 06:30 AM

Yep I still rinse too lol

Rice Reef 03-25-2014 08:07 AM

I currently thoroughly with tap water but I find that fish do not have that great of an urge to eat it as much compared to when I do not rince it.

LoJack 03-25-2014 03:45 PM

"A half cup of water at 1 ppm (1 mg/L) phosphate contains a total of 0.12 mg of phosphate. A cube of Formula 2 contains about 11.2 mg of phosphate. So the hypothetical rinsing step has removed about 1 percent of the phosphate in that food. Not really worthwhile, in my opinion, but that decision is one every aquarist can make for themselves."

Thats the part that concretes it for me. I've never rinsed frozen food, simply because its effects are negligible and the phosphates are going to get in there anyway. Plus the feeding response from my corals is greater when the fine particles are left in the tank.

Granted, I prepare my own frozen food, but there is some mysis in there, and cyclop eeze, both of which go into the mix unrinsed. I have never had any algae issues as a result.

MarkoD 03-25-2014 04:17 PM

Also I'm pretty sure the unconsumed cloudy particles end up being skimmed pretty quickly

Magickiwi 03-25-2014 08:16 PM

I rinse my food but not necessarily to avoid adding phosphates to my tank. I also prefer putting in clean food because the cloudiness just looks untidy and I like watching my tank as the fish and coral are feeding. I use a tea-sieve that is very fine mesh so I still retain most of the food particles but just lose the milky colored water that it defrosts in.

kien 03-25-2014 08:55 PM

I rinse with tap water (in a reusable coffee filter) whenever I feed the mysis. If I don't the residue that thaws out will make my skimmer go berserk!

Magickiwi 03-25-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 888477)
I rinse with tap water (in a reusable coffee filter) whenever I feed the mysis. If I don't the residue that thaws out will make my skimmer go berserk!

I've also found that with my Deltec skimmer. If I neglect to rinse as soon as I dump in the mysis it suddenly starts bubbling like mad. What brand of skimmer do you use?

kien 03-25-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magickiwi (Post 888479)
I've also found that with my Deltec skimmer. If I neglect to rinse as soon as I dump in the mysis it suddenly starts bubbling like mad. What brand of skimmer do you use?

Bubble Magus

RPatsula 03-26-2014 02:09 PM

I rince with RO/DI water. If I don't I eventually get cyano build up again. Also after I rince the frozzen food I portion it as well into small cubes so I feed the same portions all the time. This makes it easier for the people who help me with my tank.


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