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fishoholic 01-30-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 676914)
I've got my info from here

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-07/sp/feature/

which claims that acriflavin does potentially work, although maybe not as effective as copper...

I might try to find some Marex though....

Hopefully it works, I used Cupramine by seachem. To bad your not closer as I still have an almost full bottle I could of gave you. It's buffered active copper so as far as I'm aware it's supposed to be not as hard on the fish as other copper treatments. The bottle says "Less toxic, superior to, and safer then copper chlorides, sulfates, citrates and chelates"

fishoholic 01-30-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 676842)
malachite green works the same way as formalin only its way more carcinogenic. I'm surprised you can even get it still, they won't let us use it on our experimental fish at work, its great for ectoparasites and skin infections.

Good to know.

Borderjumper 01-30-2012 09:55 PM

How's it going today Brad?

Aquattro 01-30-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 677109)
How's it going today Brad?

when I left this morning, I had just turned the lights on. The queen now has some white spots, which still, to me, look like ich.
The tank was a bit cloudy, so I think a water change is in order when I get home. I'll have a better idea then on what the day looks like :)

KPG007 01-30-2012 10:48 PM

Sorry to hear about your troubles, Brad. I went through a similar battle a few years back. It was only a 33g tank, but I lost 4 out of 6 fish, as I didn't know what it was until they started dropping.


Kelly

Aquattro 01-30-2012 10:58 PM

Thanks Kelly. The problem with this stuff is I still am not entirely sure what it is. Velvet is typically much smaller than ich, and shouldn't be visible as dots, but I have dots. Ich doesn't typically kill in three days and turn the fish stringy. Although I'm not an expert on ich, I've rarely had it, and it's always gone away on it's own.
So I'm treating for something I haven't identified. Hopefully I'm doing the right thing, and hopefully an unfiltered treatment tank doesn't cause more stress and kill them with the cure.

lngrhaul 01-30-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 676857)
How about taking one of those plastic coral cups with the lid on.. Cut a round hole half way up for the fish to find its way in.. Hopefully they forget how to get out.. Kinda like a wasp trap?


Or one of those clear round sand cleaner tubes.. Plug one end and fill it with mysis and be ready to scoop?

I caught a pesky wrass once by putting a 6" tall piece of PVC Vertically in my tank.. He couldn't stand it and went in to investigate :)

why not make a small(ish) wasp trap out of a 500ml pop bottle. Cut the top off and invert it into the bottom and zap strap it together. bait and wait. you could cut the bottom down to a smaller size if you don't have much room.

Make sure to put a call out if you need more equipment or rock or ...... so we can help if we can. Gotta work together when something like this happens.

dc4 01-30-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 677130)
Thanks Kelly. The problem with this stuff is I still am not entirely sure what it is. Velvet is typically much smaller than ich, and shouldn't be visible as dots, but I have dots. Ich doesn't typically kill in three days and turn the fish stringy. Although I'm not an expert on ich, I've rarely had it, and it's always gone away on it's own.
So I'm treating for something I haven't identified. Hopefully I'm doing the right thing, and hopefully an unfiltered treatment tank doesn't cause more stress and kill them with the cure.

Is it possible that its both ick and velvet, might be the velvet stressing the fish and making ick appear?

MKLKT 01-30-2012 11:43 PM

I think I'm suffering something similar in my tank, I haven't purchased a new fish in about a year though. The last thing I added was a few SPS colonies from J&L on boxing day, and prior to that I haven't had anything new in there since about October. I lost my favourite fish so far and 2 others are showing similar signs to what you're describing. Why couldn't it be the ugly fish I don't care about? :(

Aquattro 01-30-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dc4 (Post 677151)
Is it possible that its both ick and velvet, might be the velvet stressing the fish and making ick appear?

Yes, I suspect that's possible, and even likely.


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