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Roskoreef 11-17-2015 05:35 PM

sigh.... more stn issues, fairly certain it was a combo of slight overdose of zeostart, slight change in zeo reactor output (when i changed pump and reactor 2mths ago) and an alk swing from 7 dkh to 8.75 dkh overnight (apex malfunction)

only my largest colonies are dying, i was hoping it would stop but this morning nearly a 1/4 of my large bonsai, yellow mille, efflo and teal deepwater... i dont think i have a choice but to frag out...

I fragged out the teal deepwater and cut most of the dying tissue, but i found this black inside the skeleton, anyone know if this is whats killing my nicest stuff? besides stn from recent issues..

pics after cutting most of the bottom off,

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psvuja5bwc.jpg

black stuff, was inside the part that was dying,

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pswbewqh1t.jpg

Roskoreef 11-18-2015 04:41 AM

frag tank was a mess so i picked up some of these new nifty frag racks from IM. I saw them on a MACNA review, so i snatched 2 when i saw them.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pszw67inmz.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psvkwkazhc.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psndhby9w2.jpg

Skimmer Juice 11-18-2015 06:14 AM

did you find them local? price?

Myka 11-19-2015 12:49 AM

Sorry to hear about the STN troubles... I sure hope that beauty Efflo pulls through!

Roskoreef 11-19-2015 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 970149)
Sorry to hear about the STN troubles... I sure hope that beauty Efflo pulls through!

Stn has moved down about an inch everywhere, im devestated.. im going to attempt to save some part of it but cutting it with a dremmel, pretty sure to save any of it i will have to, any suggestions?

Roskoreef 11-19-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skimmer Juice (Post 970094)
did you find them local? price?

yeah i found them at pisces, not cheap 89% ea. they had 2 smaller versions for cheaper but i didnt look into them.

riceboy 11-19-2015 01:49 PM

When dealing with stn in the past I only had success by cutting away at the healthy portion and gluing te fresh cut portion to a rock or frag plug an leave it in a low flow area in ur tank. Oh ya and prayed that it didn't die the next day lol

Roskoreef 11-19-2015 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceboy (Post 970190)
When dealing with stn in the past I only had success by cutting away at the healthy portion and gluing te fresh cut portion to a rock or frag plug an leave it in a low flow area in ur tank. Oh ya and prayed that it didn't die the next day lol

looks like i have a lot of cutting to do :(

Myka 11-20-2015 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roskoreef (Post 970154)
Stn has moved down about an inch everywhere, im devestated.. im going to attempt to save some part of it but cutting it with a dremmel, pretty sure to save any of it i will have to, any suggestions?

I haven't found that fragging always helps. In fact, I'm not sure that it even helps at all. I've tried fragging and not fragging, and sometimes the frags will survive when the rest of the colony perishes, and sometimes just the opposite. If you do frag, try to clip in-tank, and leave the rest of the colony in there.

Roskoreef 11-20-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 970255)
I haven't found that fragging always helps. In fact, I'm not sure that it even helps at all. I've tried fragging and not fragging, and sometimes the frags will survive when the rest of the colony perishes, and sometimes just the opposite. If you do frag, try to clip in-tank, and leave the rest of the colony in there.

ya I definetly prefer to frag in tank, Im going to dip a few different colonies and see what comes off. AEFW are still a suspect, but im still leaning towards alk spike as i havent stopped using flatworm stop in 6-8 mths. I fragged a huge mille just in time to save a few good size mini colonies, so far so good...

Roskoreef 11-30-2015 05:05 AM

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Roskoreef 12-04-2015 03:25 AM

tank is bouncing back, lost a bunch of sps but most are starting to encrust a bit at least.. here are some photos..

mycedium chalice recovering from a 85% loss after introducing into my tank, might grow back..

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pslr1phdz5.jpg

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lavender tang getting his tail streamers? back... what are they called?

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psdcwinqmz.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psokrdnryb.jpg

honestly didnt think tangs had teeth like this..lol creepy

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psjo22ep1k.jpg

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Ginu 12-04-2015 05:36 PM

Looking good, what changes did you do which resulted in a tank bounceback?

In regards to creepy teeth... when I moved my fish from holding tub to the tank, i had the female clown jump out of the net and landed on her face.... she had split the entire face down the middle showing some really creepy teeth... I though she would die for sure, however a year later and she lays eggs every two weeks and scar is 98% healed, can only see a little bit of the scar...

Roskoreef 12-04-2015 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginu (Post 972546)
Looking good, what changes did you do which resulted in a tank bounceback?

In regards to creepy teeth... when I moved my fish from holding tub to the tank, i had the female clown jump out of the net and landed on her face.... she had split the entire face down the middle showing some really creepy teeth... I though she would die for sure, however a year later and she lays eggs every two weeks and scar is 98% healed, can only see a little bit of the scar...

I beleive the majority of my issues was high alk, 156 ppm (8.7 dkh) so i slowed the calcium reactor down for a few days and let it drop to 125 ppm (7 dkh). With my leds at 40%, some acros did not like the high light/high alk combo...

I also gave the majority of my coral a dip in coral rx (kills those blue buggish bugs, but not the red eggs, not sure if they hatch after??)

Followed by a 1.5x dose of Flatworm Exit with a 20 gallon water change and a carbon change.

I realized that sometimes, especially with lps it is best to know when to fold em. A large gonipora I was really cheering for, was continually loosing little bits of flesh which i watched land on sps colonies and find burns and damage later... lesson learned

Roskoreef 12-04-2015 11:43 PM

Quick Full tank video after left end reno..least favourite disaster so far..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCxd-sNPT8

fixerupper 12-05-2015 02:02 AM

Schwing!

Roskoreef 12-06-2015 04:08 AM

I took a video of a coral snow dose when the lights were starting to go out to show the flow of the gyres, i tried to get the far right end to be slower for lps etc. scared the fish pretty good lol, its funny ow the pick on each other all the time but when theyre scared they all band together...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFQEcGNx5o

Myka 12-06-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roskoreef (Post 972787)
its funny ow the pick on each other all the time but when theyre scared they all band together...

I always get a kick out of that too.

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 01:27 AM

Finally pulled the trigger on my favourite fish! Found one from indonesia with different stripes on one side. So far so good, pics to come soon...

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 04:38 AM

I always wanted a regal..

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pszysvyhva.jpg

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Myka 12-07-2015 02:28 PM

A Regal in with LPS???? Are you nucking futs???!!! :eek: As an aside, I hope you gave it at least a FW dip before putting it in - Angels are bad for flukes.

You should add this link to your Tank Journal: Featured Tank Dec 2015 - Roskoreef

Congrats!! :D

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roskoreef (Post 972787)
I took a video of a coral snow dose when the lights were starting to go out to show the flow of the gyres, i tried to get the far right end to be slower for lps etc. scared the fish pretty good lol, its funny ow the pick on each other all the time but when theyre scared they all band together...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFQEcGNx5o

just realized that youtubes' provided rasta music makes it seem like the fish are smokin something in there lol

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 972985)
A Regal in with LPS???? Are you nucking futs???!!! :eek: As an aside, I hope you gave it at least a FW dip before putting it in - Angels are bad for flukes.

You should add this link to your Tank Journal: Featured Tank Dec 2015 - Roskoreef

Congrats!! :D

no risk ,no reward right? or maybe just a lps lunch buffet..who knows? its all in the wait..

worst case i make my smaller tank an lps tank, love that fish!

Madreefer 12-07-2015 07:05 PM

Is it 3 gyres your running or is there anymore that we can't see in your pics? Have you tried placing them at different spots and are you running them at full throttle? I'm running 2 of the 150's and thinking on adding 2 more but those would be the 130's.
Good luck with the angel.

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 973034)
Is it 3 gyres your running or is there anymore that we can't see in your pics? Have you tried placing them at different spots and are you running them at full throttle? I'm running 2 of the 150's and thinking on adding 2 more but those would be the 130's.
Good luck with the angel.

There is 2 150's on this side - 70% alternating flow, bottom every 2 mins, top every 5 mins

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psvlhepw0i.jpg

and a 150 on the bottom and 130 at the top, im trying them on angles to try and make the flow as random as possible - 130 100% alternating 2 mins, 150 100% slowest wave/pulse

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psj4mus7iu.jpg

Roskoreef 12-07-2015 10:39 PM

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kien 12-08-2015 12:27 AM

Oooh, the regal! I love that fish too. Definitely a bit dicey in a reef though (like most medium-large angels actually). I've always found them difficult to keep. Many of them don't end up eating, or end up eating things you don't want them to eat :neutral:. Not impossible but definitely challenging. Anyway, she looks like she'll be a gorgeous addition if she can kick that ich.

Roskoreef 12-08-2015 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 973114)
Oooh, the regal! I love that fish too. Definitely a bit dicey in a reef though (like most medium-large angels actually). I've always found them difficult to keep. Many of them don't end up eating, or end up eating things you don't want them to eat :neutral:. Not impossible but definitely challenging. Anyway, she looks like she'll be a gorgeous addition if she can kick that ich.

Like all fish in my tank, only the strong survive...

Roskoreef 12-08-2015 03:01 AM

lookin slightly better today, a little more adventurous and eating some algae and stuffs off the rocks... loves photos it seems

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psyshqbufn.jpg

some fish just love the camera

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Roskoreef 12-08-2015 11:46 PM

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gsp is honestly one of my favourites, if only it wasnt so invasive..

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Love this fish! Model citizen so far with the lps! Nips at lots on the rocks, probably small sponges, that will run out. Hopefully he can eat some pellets or frozen by then.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pszjzslmvp.jpg

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kien 12-09-2015 02:31 PM

I've always loved GSP macros.

Roskoreef 12-15-2015 11:08 PM

writing this update is giving me chest pains...

last night did a dose of sentinel for red bugs... most pods in main tank dead, lots of small ones alive in frag tank, one acro crab dead, thats it...cant see any red bugs anymore, clam is fine... sentinel worked well, maybe too well...

So now i could care less about these red bugs that i just paid a shutload for some sentinel pills and they are the least of my acro troubles, it seems the sucking ftupid black/purple bugs are invincible and have also devestated others acro colonies, from r2r it starts halfway down:

http://www.reef2reef.com/threads/an-....184192/page-7

these black bugs are eating all my acros, after the sentinel treatment, they flourished! most likely because of no competition on a food source, but with the exception of some new colonies, all my acros today are toast. all frags had bugs - garbage. in one night they exploded... all other corals and fish are great.

2 GALLONS of frags all infested this morning with rtn and a few colonies..

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pshtzfmtjq.jpg

I have a bunch to frag and maybe recover if i got enough of them out but im pretty sure im dreaming..

What am i supposed to do with a decent size calcium reactor and zeovit and not many corals that like ulns, use it with super slowflow and changes stones half as much, or use half as much stones..

ugh..might just accept that im going to have a LPS dominant reef here soon..

anyways slowed down reactor and flow, might have some gyres for sale soon....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 972663)
You know TOTM is a curse right? Everyone who gets it will have a bleaching or RTN event or w.h.y. That's why you've had the recent struggles. ;)

man this TOTM curse got me hard...

Wretch 12-16-2015 12:46 AM

Man that sucks. Sorry to see that happen to your beautiful tank. Any idea what the purple things are?

Myka 12-16-2015 01:19 AM

Ugh that hurts to read.

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kien 12-16-2015 01:58 AM

That looks familiar. Been there. Done that. Got the wet t-shirt. Sorry to hear man :-(

Bugger 12-16-2015 02:05 AM

Oh man I don't even know what I would do. Makes me want to never buy another coral again

WarDog 12-16-2015 02:06 AM

Sorry to hear.

Myka 12-16-2015 03:05 AM

Wow, these black bugs are really scary! I've been reading about them... :eek:

Ginu 12-16-2015 08:13 PM

Sorry to hear that. I guess I was the one who pushed you to dip the coral see what bugs you had.

I don't know much about these black bugs, however they seem to be scary. Have you thought moving all the SPS to the FT and doing weekley dips? IT might be more efficient than dosing the DT.

Roskoreef 12-16-2015 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginu (Post 974293)
Sorry to hear that. I guess I was the one who pushed you to dip the coral see what bugs you had.

I don't know much about these black bugs, however they seem to be scary. Have you thought moving all the SPS to the FT and doing weekley dips? IT might be more efficient than dosing the DT.

Yup, i'm glad you did...otherwise i would have still been wondering... allthough those bugs came off in the dip, they definetly werent dead, and most seemed to burrow inside the skeleton. At the end of that r2r thread the guy finally killed them ( and 95% of the frags aswell) with a 400% bayer dip for 5 mins several times...

My FT is running off my DT atm so thats not gonna help i dont think, plus frag tank had the major infestation, dt is suffering slowly, but without the red bugs some acros may have a chance...


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