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banditpowdercoat 05-02-2008 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ephraim (Post 321773)
i am sick and tired of the segregation that is forced upon my people. It is unjust, when i am outside smoking i try to position myself in the highest traffic area so more of the self-righteous sucessful quitters can breathe my cigarette's refreshing aroma. Non-smokers are not the problem, they are great people, the problem is some of these people who have quit that it goes to thier head and they suddenly beleive the belong to an elitest tribe and they know what is best for me. Nuh-uh, smoking may be bad for my health, but i find it to be very beneficial to my mental wellbeing, is that not worth something?

Um, would you like to rephrase that? I am an EX smoker. and I am rooting FOR the smoker. Not all Ex smokers are the elite snops you portray them to be. I know how hard, no Damn near IMPOSSIBLE it was for me to quit. I amlost lost my Fiance (wife now) because of it.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 05-02-2008 08:22 AM

I worked with a carpenter for several days up at the fish farm in Powell River. He would literally stop everything every 15 minutes to take a 5 minute smoke break. He kept asking me to stop too, but I don't work that way. I like to keep on working instead of stopping 25 percent of the time. He was very fast and efficient when he was working, but seriously, the company was paying him 25 percent too much because of all his smoke breaks. If he missed a smoke break, he would literally take 10 minutes and smoke 2 cigarettes instead.

My father was a 2 pack a day smoker for 30+ years of his life. He quit cold turkey when his doctor showed him X-rays of his lungs & told him "See this, dead 6 months." He quit because he loved us and didn't want to die so young, leaving us to fend for himself.

A week or so later, we had a house party and I asked my uncles politely to not smoke since my dad was trying to quit & it was literally a matter of life or death. My dad's bro, the "doctor", butt-hole that he is, decided that he wasn't going to let some grade 9 kid tell him not to smoke so he pulled out a cigarette, lit it & blew smoke in my face. I then went in my room, found my water pistol, loaded it, went back into the livingroom and with a big smile on my face, shot out his cigarette right in his face. My dad was mad & I paid for it with my sore butt, but guess what?

IT WAS WORTH IT!

That uncle never smoked in our house again. Muahahahahaha.

Anthony

PS. As you can probably guess, I'm one of those RUDE non-smokers (at least to smokers lighting up where they are not supposed to).

Moogled 05-02-2008 11:06 AM

Some laws are created for the wellbeing of the general populace within a community. I'm sure not all of you have taken philosophy of political ethics, but when I look at this from a philosophical perspective, it makes complete sense.

Call it legal paternalism, this smoking law is created under the general fact that smoking is hazardous to your health. Despite the fact that its end is benevolent, its means are also coercive, which is why some of you are totally ****ing fire. You think that as long there is a designated area where non-smokers don't step into, that you you're fine. Or maybe you think that being on personal property is enough of a reason to do whatever you want.

There's no need for a public survey, because any reasonable person would understand that there are more benefits to non-smoking laws. I assure you that there are many counterarguments to this point, such as the personal pursuit of what makes you happy; legal paternalism makes choices for people, as if their safety is more important than wellbeing.

How is smoking equivalent to industrial and vehicular smog? Don't bullsh1t yourselves: vehicles create smog because we need them to get ourselves places. Power plants create smog so you can power your stoves and housing necessities.

After all that's been said: some, SOME, smokers are just too goddamn selfish and you try to justify your entitlement of smokes by attempting to put it on par with materials that clearly create social benefits.

Doug 05-02-2008 01:10 PM

No wonder there are no posts in the reefing forum. Everyones in here. :lol:

Aquattro 05-02-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 321830)
No wonder there are no posts in the reefing forum. Everyones in here. :lol:


And just so we're clear, this is a non-smoking thread....:)

Parker 05-02-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 321833)
And just so we're clear, this is a non-smoking thread....:)


Feel free to pee though.....

Beverly 05-02-2008 02:12 PM

Wait a minute.....










Speaking of peeing.......











Ah, there! Relief found in the bathroom. We have rules in our house about not peeing just anywhere, ya know!

banditpowdercoat 05-02-2008 04:20 PM

WOW, About time I started a thread that went more than 3 replies LMAO

Doug 05-02-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 321833)
And just so we're clear, this is a non-smoking thread....:)


Ok. I dont smoke. :lol:



and regardless if I agree or disagree with the places smoking is banned or not, it is. :lol: And I would guess its the choice of a greater percent of the population, so if I never agreed, I could stand out there with my sign, protesting and peeing on the sidewalk, and still get nowhere. :lol:

banditpowdercoat 05-02-2008 04:38 PM

If Beverly can Pee here, can I Drink???


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