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StirCrazy 04-27-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OceanicCorals-Ian- (Post 513187)

Here is a recent quick review of the LED Aqua Illumination module. Note the PAR comparison.



http://reeftools.com/news/aqua-illum...ar-led-system/

yup, nice output but there 24" is from the top of the aquarium, they forgot to include the 2" the modual is above the tank so there 12 and 24" measurments should actualy be labled as 14 and 26.

Steve

Lampshade 01-19-2011 10:54 AM

For Cooling check out this online calculator:
http://www.novelconceptsinc.com/calc...resistance.cgi


Cree has a page regarding thermal management:
http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLa...Management.pdf
And their page about XP-E's:
http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLampXP-E.pdf

Sooooo.... I'm planning on a build with 120 LED's. The Thermal Resistance in the LED's are 9°C/W(XP-E Blue/White) and a good junction to the heatsink is 1°C/W per LED i can calcualte the minimum heatsink resistance needed driving them at 750mA at an ambiant 30°C(my house has AC, should never get that high). Thermal resistance is how much hotter something gets to disapate 1W of heat, so lower is better for a heatsink.

Aluminum is about 237 W/m*K at 26 Celcius.(wikipedia)

Use the formula for Heat from cree:
Tj = Ta + Ptotal (Rth j-sp/ NumLED + Rth sp-h + Rth h-a)
P = 120*.750A*3.25V = 292.5W
Rth h-a = (145°C - 30°C –9°C/W x 292.5W/120 – 1°C/W x 292.5W/120)/292.5W = 0.31°C/WIn

I need a min 0.31°C/W heat sink.

Using the calculator on novel i can find the size i need to meet that. I used the slab calculator and the one linked above and came up that a 10"x42" heatsink with 1" fins and .25cms of air flow, asuming .25cms average flow over the entire thing, 1 computer fan is .25, it would probably take 2 to make this consistant. This would have a C/W of : 0.0653926108°C/W, far more than needed.

Couple other pages for info on Cooling LED's:
http://www.qats.com/cpanel/UploadedP...a_0909_web.pdf
http://sound.westhost.com/heatsinks.htm

mseepman 01-19-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampshade (Post 583250)
For Cooling check out this online calculator:
http://www.novelconceptsinc.com/calc...resistance.cgi


Cree has a page regarding thermal management:
http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLa...Management.pdf
And their page about XP-E's:
http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLampXP-E.pdf

Sooooo.... I'm planning on a build with 120 LED's. The Thermal Resistance in the LED's are 9°C/W(XP-E Blue/White) and a good junction to the heatsink is 1°C/W per LED i can calcualte the minimum heatsink resistance needed driving them at 750mA at an ambiant 30°C(my house has AC, should never get that high). Thermal resistance is how much hotter something gets to disapate 1W of heat, so lower is better for a heatsink.

Aluminum is about 237 W/m*K at 26 Celcius.(wikipedia)

Use the formula for Heat from cree:
Tj = Ta + Ptotal (Rth j-sp/ NumLED + Rth sp-h + Rth h-a)
P = 120*.750A*3.25V = 292.5W
Rth h-a = (145°C - 30°C –9°C/W x 292.5W/120 – 1°C/W x 292.5W/120)/292.5W = 0.31°C/WIn

I need a min 0.31°C/W heat sink.

Using the calculator on novel i can find the size i need to meet that. I used the slab calculator and the one linked above and came up that a 10"x42" heatsink with 1" fins and .25cms of air flow, asuming .25cms average flow over the entire thing, 1 computer fan is .25, it would probably take 2 to make this consistant. This would have a C/W of : 0.0653926108°C/W, far more than needed.

Couple other pages for info on Cooling LED's:
http://www.qats.com/cpanel/UploadedP...a_0909_web.pdf
http://sound.westhost.com/heatsinks.htm

Great links on this. Have you started your LED build yet? How big is the tank you're building over?

lastlight 01-19-2011 05:26 PM

Lampshade you should put together an online calculator for all that. Be a huge hit with the DIY LED crowd. Nicely done!

Lampshade 01-20-2011 06:12 PM

No start on a LED build yet... I've been doing a "bit" of research on this so i can justify the nearly $2000 expense. looks good so far, I'll probably start with some suppliment lighting to my MH's and eventually replace them. The tank's a 150gal 6" long, so i was planning on a fixture that size(10x48) and 40° optics, possibly 60°. Should get decent spread, i just want to avoid the zebra color's like i've seen some people have with 40° optics.

As for an online calculator, probably a good idea, haha, maybe i could get vertex or even cree to give me product for advertisements :P.


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