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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 781513)

So can we edit or can't we:ppp

Only if you're fast enough!

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Originally Posted by Titus99 (Post 781480)

I'm with you Laurie. While I do understand that any fish will be out of place coming from ocean to tank. We can still do our part to house them with the best environment possible. We wouldn't put a horse in a kennel now would we.

Again thank-you

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 781483)

speaking up is one thing...
Trying to say you are going to talk to a retailer so they don't sell a fish to another member you disagree with is quite another...

You've moved from Tang Police to Tang Nazi.

you should also read the articles and thread I've posted above.

They would be good for you.

Part of everything that you are missing is that I know the original poster, so let me give you some backstory. A few years ago he added inappropriate fish to his tank and had nothing but issues with it, he got frustrated with the hobby and with a baby on the way, his mistakes were getting costly so he quit. Now fast forward a few years and he's trying to do better, but sorry, I see history repeating itself. Personally I think he needs to slow down, give his tank a chance to stabilize, and make appropriate fish choices, so he can enjoy the hobby and not get frustrated and quit again.

He knows I am friends with the Steve the owner. So while I'll admit maybe threatening him wasn't the best way to go about things, I was feeling frustrated that he was going to put a bunch a fish at risk and didn't seem to want to listen to the good advice being given. I figured my threat might make him pay attention and listen to the advice being given. However even my own boyfriend Doug (who works there on Sat.'s) pointed out, that all you can do is tell them what you think is best and if they want to waste their money on bad decisions it's their choice to do so.

BTW if I was nazi all I'd care about is the survival of the fittest and take pleasure in the weak being killed. However since all I care about is the well being of all the fish I don't see how that term is appropriate or fitting, maybe you should read up on your history.

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 781513)

So can we edit or can't we:ppp

Oh Ya. Forgot......:noidea:

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Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 781528)

Again thank-you

Part of everything that you are missing is that I know the original poster, so let me give you some backstory. A few years ago he added inappropriate fish to his tank and had nothing but issues with it, he got frustrated with the hobby and with a baby on the way, his mistakes were getting costly so he quit. Now fast forward a few years and he's trying to do better, but sorry, I see history repeating itself. Personally I think he needs to slow down, give his tank a chance to stabilize, and make appropriate fish choices, so he can enjoy the hobby and not get frustrated and quit again.

He knows I am friends with the Steve the owner. So while I'll admit maybe threatening him wasn't the best way to go about things, I was feeling frustrated that he was going to put a bunch a fish at risk and didn't seem to want to listen to the good advice being given. I figured my threat might make him pay attention and listen to the advice being given. However even my own boyfriend Doug (who works there on Sat.'s) pointed out, that all you can do is tell them what you think is best and if they want to waste their money on bad decisions it's their choice to do so.

BTW if I was nazi all I'd care about is the survival of the fittest and take pleasure in the weak being killed. However since all I care about is the well being of all the fish I don't see how that term is appropriate or fitting, maybe you should read up on your history.

And Doug is right. Like my Dido used to say: " you can take a fish to water but you can't make it drink"

I just personally feel naesco that someone who's been as vocal as you have (many times when you've not been asked to be) should justify to us your own tang selection given your own small tank in the past. I'm not attacking you I honestly don't understand how your situation was any better. At the very least you had a tang that grows longer than your tank was wide.

I figured I would throw my two cents in here.
the purple tang at steves is 2" inches in size..pretty much the smallest purple tang that I have seen actually
at this point, this tang is far from being able to kick the other tang's butts in his tank. he is also adding it as his last tang which is the proper thing to do when coming to potentially aggressive fish.
I have a large purple tang in a 90 gallon with a smaller regal tang and they have zero aggression towards each other..
in fact, they hang out together.
I don't think that putting a purple tang in a 90 is the worst thing to do...especially keeping the size of the purple tang in mind.
we all have done things that we probably shouldn't have...some much more so than what this gentleman is considering.
most fish will show aggression given the right circumstance.
I personally think the fish would be fine for now, and IMO, will have a good chance of being fine in the future.
I am sure that for everyone that has an aggressive purple tang, there is someone that doesn't.
This being said, if you are having issues with your tank, adding any fish (especially tangs which are prone to ich) is not a wise move regardless of the species.
and to your original question..yes a purple tang for 100.00 is a great deal and I am actually very surprised that Steve still has it.

I know 3 people with Moorish Idols all over 4 years Old.

Aside from the danger of natural predators in the wild, there is not one wild caught fish that is not better off in the ocean than in a tank. Complain all you want, but unless your tanks are one hundred percent aqua cultured/bred than you are, in fact, as bad as the person you are condemning. Curious as to why you think one type of fish is okay being enclosed in a glass box, but not others? I'm sure all fish have a broader range in the wild than they do in a tank. For every example one cites as a reason such and such can not live in a tank, someone can do the opposite.

Husbandry goes a long way, obviously the bigger the tank the better, but that goes for all fish.

I had a purple Tang in my 200 gallon, if you want to say aggressive i'd say the Yellow tang ( He razored his share of fish for sure) was far more aggressive than the purple, followed by the Tomini and the atlantic blue. The Purple was probably the most docile fish I owned :) aside from my leopard wrasse and my beautiful powder blue.

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Originally Posted by naesco (Post 781446)

And I am because there is a chance that the purple tang will not be purchased and killl some other fish in his tank. It is his decision alone and I hope he considers the tang first.

Look, sometimes I may go overboard on what I see, in my opinion, as an unethical practise.

I have condemned LFS both on this board and at the LFS for bringing in fish like Moorish Idols.

Poor judgment is another issue. Some reefers take advice/criticism on this board and make the decision to do the right thing and postpone their purchase.

However some reefers with an attitude just do what they want regardless of the adivise or cautions of others.

It has been my experience that the ones with attitude quidkly come and go on this board because eventually they will have a major disaster and quit the hobby. The others will enjoy there tanks and the crittters therein for a very long time.

Curious as to why you would even bother to bring up Nazi's? Comparing everything to them is the lamest thing one can do on the interwebs.

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Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 781528)