Haha...well I have more lousy phone picutures....but they all show the same thing.

Just cause you asked for them though.

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Mark I really like the low laying rock. Im looking at doing that to my Cube once its stops being -47 here in Manitoba. Are you going to be running the Tunze that low to the ground

Here is one of my problems...the house builder made some cosmetic changes to my stand design and one of them included a double wall on the overflow side of my tank covering most of that side up. In doing that, I asked him to cut four 3 1/2" holes out of the wood so that my pumps could go in before the tank went in. He did this but when the tank was installed, I noticed that the bottom two holes were very close to the tank bottom.
The true issue didn't rear its head until I put those pumps in while aquascaping yesterday. They are only 1/2" from the bottom. I am probably going to have to place a rock below them in order to avoid sucking up sand.

Yikes, there's no way to enlargen the holes to let them sit a little higher?

I had a pair running 24V jumpers really close to the low in the back of my last tank with no issues. With new sand though you might have issues for a bit. mine were both aimed slightly upwards and there were no wide flow shrouds available then either. Not sure which ones you're using.

Mine have the 24v jumpers but only the original shrouds. I bought them about 1 1/2yrs ago from one of the guys in Calgary who had just started a tank and then got transferred and had to sell them. They've never seen water for me.

I can't make new holes...the wood is right up to the glass and there's 1 1/4" of wood to get through.

you have an advantage with the original shrouds. aim slightly up, typical tunze jet stream forward with little collateral damage.

but you can totally make new holes so long as you have access to the non tank side of the plywood. just score and chip away with a solid utility blade and a small screwdriver. I patented this process and called it the scribe technique when I added details into my old stand =)

you could abandon the low holes and mount them on a couple sea sweeps higher up in the tank. I even know a guy that that could hook ya up with them :)

or make it one of those artificial sand beds in the corners by gluing sand to a piece of acrylic and dropping it on each side under where the pumps are.

or point them down and turn them on full and see what happens.

Haha...thanks Nick...2 of those ideas don't seem to bad. I will have to think about the 3rd for a while before I get back to you. :)

Hey Mark, if you can't find a solution that works for you, what about 2 of these?

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tunze-...-6025-250.html