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danny zubot 07-07-2005 02:29 PM

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Keeping an local anemone used to cold water in a 75 degree tank is hardly doing that.
IMO, if the anemone is alive and thriving at that temp, then it would be considered a success. I'm not sure how I feel about the ethics of taking local live stock from the coast. Both sides have valid points, and if I lived on the coast I might be tempted to do the same thing.

rickjames 07-07-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Invigor
I don't think a glass box is quite replicating their natural habitat. That would be like sticking us in a glass room, and putting a few trees and some grass in it, and calling it a replica of our natural habitat.

Emphasis on TRY, never said we WERE replicating their habitat.

My point was that keeping a local anemone in a reef tank is not TRYING to replicate its habitat.
:biggrin:

Diana 07-07-2005 03:19 PM

IMO taking livestock from local waters is the same as livestock being taken from tropical waters. Actually, i think its even better, because so few people collect around here, whereas some areas in the tropics are over-harvested. Its a tough hobby we are in, and the best way is to be sensible about it. When you buy from the store, try to buy tank-raised creatures or ones that are MAC certified. When you collect from local waters, collect only from areas with a strong population of the particular organism, and try to provide the best possible home for it.

Acclimatizing the anenomes to your tropical marine tank probebly worked because they were most likely tidepool creatures, and can withstand much warmer temperatures. However, in nature they also get cold bursts of water when the tide comes in, so one can assume they require this to flourish. I think its a good experiment (as so much of this hobby is!), but please dont release back into the wild if you have mixed temperate and tropical. Just like people have been saying, you could release a real nasty.

-Diana

OCDP 07-07-2005 04:17 PM

Yikes, I think everyone has stressed their points enough!

It has been said once.... it's not going back in . Chill .

and uhhh.. pics? :idea:

Johnny Reefer 07-07-2005 05:27 PM

What species are these local anemones?

Cheers,

adidas 07-07-2005 06:04 PM

they sound like they are doing awesome.. BRING ON THE PICS!!! :biggrin: :cool: :cool:

HimSelf 07-07-2005 07:26 PM

ok the pics
 
Hi every I'm new so I will try to figur out how to post pics. I don't think it will be too hard. I will take some pic's after the pink one has fished spliting. I just checked today and looks like is retracted in to this cave.

They are from the family called the gaint green ananos. You can look it up on Google for more info.

Cheers

Reefhawk1 07-08-2005 12:37 AM

coast
 
I have collected snails and crabs from the local shores when I lived on Van Island. The crabs became a food source for my lion fish and the snails thrived in the tank. When I move back to the coast I am going to build a cold water tank with local species and use ocean water for nutrients. Lets see those Pics :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

monza 07-08-2005 06:45 AM

If you can't find a hit on
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gaint green ananos
:eek:

This might help, interesting thread for sure.....
http://www.mbayaq.org/efc/living_spe...ab=4&inhab=157

StirCrazy 07-08-2005 12:54 PM

Only thinks I got are yes you need a permit to collect them from local waters (I actually checked into it) and second, in the long run you are killing them, yes they will live in warmer waters (75 is still cooler than most reef tanks) but they will not have a normal lifespan as they cannot cope with permanently increased temperates and this increases there metabolism dramatically and will cause them to age prematurely.
third as mention you cannot return them to the ocean due to possible pathogen/parasite issues if you have had anything else in the tank that is non native, heck even native display tanks that have been separated from the ocean cannot be returned so basically you have taken a beautifully local species and sentenced it to death.

Steve


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