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Ian 12-19-2015 06:20 PM

Fun build! Yup budgets are meant to be smashed when it comes to hobbies.
That computer is awesome, showed the wife the pic and the first word out of her mouth was NO! LOL back to spending money on getting back into tis hobby.

Etaloche 01-10-2016 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 974724)
Fun build! Yup budgets are meant to be smashed when it comes to hobbies.

So ya... this totally happened over the holidays haha

Myka 01-10-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 977850)
So ya... this totally happened over the holidays haha

Such a teaser! We need pics!

ALBERTA REEF 01-10-2016 06:14 PM

Nice build so far. Pics!!!:lol:

WarDog 01-10-2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 974724)
Budgets are meant to be smashed when it comes to hobbies.

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 977850)
... this totally happened over the holidays.

Hehe... having fun yet? :wink:

Etaloche 01-10-2016 06:50 PM

Been very busy celebrating the holidays and classes in college just started again for me, but I have been constantly working on the setup during that time.

So here's the first update of the new year!

Preparing to paint the back
http://imgur.com/mX24JsP.jpg

Used some black spray paint I had around.
Definitely didn't put out enough newspaper and got a lot of overspray on some stuff in storage haha oops :p

First light coat
http://imgur.com/OCc8IWR.jpg

Took a shot at cutting up some glass
I got 3 24x24 glass sheets for free from craigslist and a $15 glass cutter and it was a lot easier and fun than I expected

Cutting up some baffles to use in the sump
http://imgur.com/u3pxW5e.jpg

Grabbed black silicone from J&L during the boxing day sale and took some scrap pieces to practice with

http://imgur.com/NcYbb4h.jpg

I thought I might as well make something with the scraps and built a container for the ATO
Got this idea from seeing Rich's tank couple of weeks ago at a meet

http://imgur.com/d03ytCI.jpg

Was a messy job but whatever it holds water, I'm calling it a day haha

http://imgur.com/dMCyCtH.jpg

Here's how it would sit in the cabinet

http://imgur.com/vG0q84Z.jpg

Installing the baffles as well, simple 3 chamber design with a bubble trap
With a pretty small sump I was pretty limited with space.
A little worried if I have to upgrade the skimmer one day but I'll make it work.

http://imgur.com/D6lezZo.jpg

3 coats of paint later

http://imgur.com/RUIgo0Q.jpg

and plumbing completed
Lots of unions, I love unions. What lovely invention :mrgreen:

http://imgur.com/Jxd1Ny8.jpg

Finally, a leak test on everything
Did have a small leak with a bulk head but easy fix

http://imgur.com/HBTjnel.jpg

and then I decided I wanted to have the biggest possible tank that this cabinet could fit and grabbed a 45g from craigslist...

http://imgur.com/8NxriPM.jpg

There's more to the update but I'm running out of time since I'm going skiing since it's such a nice day. I'll post more later~ :lol:

Etaloche 01-10-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 977888)
Hehe... having fun yet? :wink:

A little worried about how much fun I'm having, if I'm dead honest haha

WarDog 01-10-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 977897)

Took a shot at cutting up some glass, it was a lot easier and fun than I expected

See I told you... easy peasy!

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 977897)
I thought I might as well make something with the scraps and built a container for the ATO
Got this idea from seeing Rich's tank couple of weeks ago at a meet

Nice buddy!

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Originally Posted by Etaloche (Post 977897)
...and then I decided I wanted to have the biggest possible tank that this cabinet could fit and grabbed a 45g from craigslist...

Haha, not even wet yet and you're upgrading! You won't regret it!

Etaloche 01-11-2016 12:44 PM

Fell asleep after skiing and woke up at 3am got nothing better to do than to give you guys part two of the update!

The standard 45g was the best fit for my cabinet especially with how I had plumbed it.
The issue was that the 45g is rather odd and unpopular tank size and getting hold of one was not easy.

I tried almost all the big LFS around here and every single one of them told me that they don't carry the 45g because people simply don't really buy one.
Messaged the 1 or 2 tanks on craigslist from people in Kelowna to even the islands with no luck.

When I finally saw this one come up for sale in abbotsford I just had to grab it.
I paid $60 which was more than I wanted to but I knew if I didn't grab this one I wouldn't have much other choice in terms of finding another 45g

The tank overall was in rough shape. Scratches here and there I can deal with but it seemed like someone had attempted to reseal the tank over the existing silicone and did a terrible job at it.

http://imgur.com/DbwRWA2.jpg

The silicone was also bubbling which was ugly and compromised intergrity.

http://imgur.com/S8A7jlM.jpg

When I finally saw the tag of when this tank was made I knew a reseal was inevitable.
This tank is old enough to buy itself drinks at a bar!
(the bubbles are from me testing if it would even hold water on the bottom because the silicone was in terrible shape)

http://imgur.com/ILEojd7.jpg

New tank proposed new challenges as well like this center brace.
I plumbed for the overflow box to run in the middle and the brace will also block off my lights.

http://imgur.com/S4m3AzE.jpg

So I simply cut if off...
I am convinced that the 45g doesn't actually need this brace as I did a full water test and measured that the glass doesn't bow more than 2mm in total and the brace didn't even go tight.
Just so I can sleep with an ease of mind at night I will still be replacing the brace with something else in a future project.

http://imgur.com/DSuL4bS.jpg

Now it's easy to work on the silicone without the brace getting in the way too.
Resealing the tank was fairly easy and didn't take as long as I expected.
It was almost scary how easily the silicone on there came off. I'm very glad I decided to reseal the tank.

http://imgur.com/nDplnCN.jpg

Prepared for reseal

http://imgur.com/SSOcurd.jpg

Cleaned up all the glass and sealed her up.
I gotta say my silicone applying skills have come a long way since that test ATO container I made :mrgreen:
Seeing the glass clean and smooth silicone edges make me a very happy person haha

http://imgur.com/srjNxBd.jpg

While waiting for silicone to dry and whatnot I wired up this fan system for cooling as I don't have space nor expenses for a chiller.
I grabbed a tank fan from craigslist for $20 and soldered in my 2 fans in the wiring.
The power supply is a 220V supply and conveniently only runs at about 8V DC instead of 12V since it's only on 110V. This keeps the fan running quiet.
The issue was that there wasn't enough current to drive the 120mm fans so I wired in a fan controller going into the tank fan to control how much current I sent to it until the two 120mm fans had enough power to start running.

http://imgur.com/Y8HzZ59.jpg

Started cleaning some of the more gunked up used items with a 48 hour diluted vinegar dip.

http://imgur.com/1cbr39G.jpg

This stuff was gross to clean.

http://imgur.com/JYfbNIT.jpg

So grabbed some new equipment over the holidays like this Tunze nano wavebox for $40 from a fellow reefer here and a Tunze silence pump from J&L as the mag 7 was unbearable.
As you guys might've noticed in the short time I've been in this hobby I have fallen in love with Tunze products. Every time I try their stuff out it's dead quiet and energy efficient.
If I'm having troubles choosing between brands I will have no hesitation to try out the Tunze first.
I might try to find a used controllable Tunze powerhead to connect up to the second channel on the wavecontroller for better flow and ease in the future.

http://imgur.com/6O685Nu.jpg

I also scored a RKE for $200 from a fellow reefer with the modules I wanted.

http://imgur.com/WR4Y7B6.jpg

I was a little disappointed to find out that there were some issues with the unit.

First, the temp probe would only throw an error when connected through the RJ11 ports

http://imgur.com/oyMVPuH.jpg

Second, the SL1 module was reading nonexistent values even when there were no probes connected to it.

http://imgur.com/F9oX7p1.jpg

http://imgur.com/8Ip3ZzL.jpg

http://imgur.com/G5YtavU.jpg

Finally, this PC4 module would not power up...

http://imgur.com/yDwN1GM.jpg

Having a look inside there were heavy corrosion and even after trying to wipe off most of the debris with 100% alcohol I had no luck.
The owner said that he got it a while ago and never used it.
I would say that being near saltwater and being stored away for a long time caused the board to corrode and fail over time.

http://imgur.com/BJV0R49.jpg

Some really heavy corrosion around these mosfet chips

http://imgur.com/5IpuLFZ.jpg

So I assumed that the SL1 probably suffered the same damage as there are openings to the case on the SL1 which make it more prone to humidity damage.
As I predicted I found some corrosion inside the unit but not as bad as the PC4

http://imgur.com/JUkGHRe.jpg

Gave it a good brush with 100% alcohol.
The red circle shown is actually one of the areas I think was causing issues.
If you look carefully enough you can see that the corrosion built up enough to the point that these 2 contacts on this chip were touching.

http://imgur.com/cjCmhRa.jpg

Cleaned off the area well and voila! Never thought I'd be so happy to see an electronic throw an error before.

http://imgur.com/Jc9N93p.jpg

So now I had to test what was wrong with the temp probe so I cut off the RJ11 connector and crimped on some molex connectors that I had from my computer build.

http://imgur.com/JdHaXoA.jpg

Plugged it into the SL1 and it works!
I guess this is how I'll be using the temp probe from now.
The owner did promise to refund me some of the cost for the broken PC4. I'll either have to ship it to DA for repair or try to find another one for sale.
Or maybe both...

http://imgur.com/iE6cK1G.jpg

Decided I was gonna drill a 3rd hole in the cabinet to add a second drain to the overflow box.

http://imgur.com/da6ntFO.jpg

So after much research, I have read from Herbie himself that the Herbie method is not viable for a siphon overflow.
So I know that Herbie can't be achieved here but the overflow is already pretty silent as it is and the 2nd drain will just purely act as an emergency and not to surface skim.
This should give me some redundancy as many people have told me that HOB overflow tends to fail a lot.

http://imgur.com/7psSZKn.jpg

The middle drain had a cheap ball valve and when I did a leak test on the 29g I realized just how clunky these things are to control flow so I decided I wanted a gate valve on the main drain. Grabbed a gate valve from a reefer on here.
The issue was that even though the middle drain was on unions I didn't want to remake the plumbing already installed under the cabinet so I just had to route the plumbing to run to the existing ones I had already installed.
It got a little wonky but I'm happy with the final product.

http://imgur.com/TTwZd6q.jpg

Total cost now: who knows... I've lost count
I just started researching more and realized I want more and things quickly got out of hand before I even knew it lol

One of the mods should edit the title of this thread to - There is no such thing as budget in this hobby: Brian's 45g build :lol!:

Bblinks 01-11-2016 05:02 PM

Brian, just skimmed through your thread, that's a whole lot of work you did buddy. One thing I want to mention is that overflow, I have had nothing but bad experience with them...I think you should drill...


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