The pro bio f is for small tanks
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Aquaforest said this on RC too:

So essentially you can use one or the other, or both. Maybe the ProBioF is a good option for sumpless tanks? I wonder if it is ok for skimmerless too?

Bio f is the carbon source and bacteria it's like a all in one for small tanks but you would always need a skimmer for this method.

So I should use just the Probio S and the np pro and thats it for phosphate reduction ? And dont use the bro bio f ? Or should I use all 3 ? My tank is 60g is that considered a small tank ?

FWIW, I used ProBioF for about four months, I didn't see much change in nitrate. I switched to NoPox and it started working within days. I still have like 80% of PBF if someone wants it at next meet or whatever.

Ahhhh, i got them mixed up.

I just started using np pro and pro bio s. Too soon to tell.

ok got a new test kit
P04 0.50
nitrates 10ppm

So now that I have the numbers what is the recommended route ? Already doing 5g water change every 1-2 days just to remove detritus and stuff I blow off the rocks .
tank specs :
lighting 2 x 39w t5 bulbs (blue + and a actinic +) x 3 kessil a360we
36x24x14h bare bottom
mag 12 pump
2x jebao ppw-4 (set on first wave setting full power and speed)
vertex omega 150
live rocks and chateo in the sump
no carbon or gfo ,I dose the big 3 and potassium occasionally .
Got a big bioload IMO for this size tank but all small fish
2 clowns
1 clown goby
1 ruby red scooter
1 banded pipe
1 dragon face pipe
1 target Mandarin
1 sunburst anthias
2 yellow boxfish
1 yashi goby
clean up crew :
2 red scarlets
5 halloween hermits
1 bumblebee shrimp
4 bumblebee snails
10,000,000 micro brittle stars
I feed rotifers and add pods to the tank for the pod eaters as well as PE Calanus Frozen / cyclops / mysis / ns pellets / ns flake / reef frenzy nano / and reef frenzy fish eggs So I feed heavy but since Im removing alot of detritus from small frequent water changes I figure my feeding is fine , but the detritus does not end no matter how much I remove . Most of my flow is at the top of the aquarium so I have stuff settling at the bottom . Maybe I could aim my returns at the ground but I like leaving the bottom lower flow for my harlequin shrimp to get around easier . I dont want to use any reactors or add anymore equipment so Im hoping this aquaforest method can help me . So I picked up the :
Pro-bios S
Pro-bios F
NP Pro
Should I use all 3 in combination ? Or should I just stick to running the : Pro-bios S and the NP Pro ?
All my corals are doing great as well as my fish its just the algae on the rocks thats annoying me and also getting little bubbles on my rocks and in the algae .

alk 7
calcium 430
mag 1110
all test kits are nyos reefer kits

Anyone know who carries Aquaforest Reef Salt? I found one on Amazon from a 3rd party seller asking exuberant amounts... They just out of stock?

I'm going skimmer less and nearing the end of my Probiotic bucket. Looking to keep parameters more in line with NSW an like AF, but want tot switch to the regular "Reef" version now.

edit: Hmmm strange. I found it looking under the Aquaforest brand, but not via Searching "Aquaforest Reef Salt". I bought a 5kg bucket for now, but would like a 10kg if anyone knows other sources, or at least a backup. :)

Once Amazon sells stock, they will no longer be carrying Aquaforest products. All the LFS with orders in should be receiving their stock this week of salt and the rest of the product line that they ordered. Maybe someone can chime in here with which LFS in Edmonton are carrying the Aquaforest line??