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Bigevul 03-18-2013 03:51 PM

Id be interested in the template as well.

Madmak 03-18-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigevul (Post 803569)
Id be interested in the template as well.

Me too please, PM'd my email.

Aqua-Digital 03-18-2013 05:05 PM

Ok lets make this easier for me.

NO pm's please I cant send the file that way and it means opening up a pm to get your email address

Please everyone email me at sales@aqua-digital.com I will then reply with it.

Thanks guys.

Aqua-Digital 03-18-2013 06:29 PM

the template acts as a good learning curve also.

In the next few weeks I will be doing a set up video diary.

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 06:48 PM

As many of you are aware I am doing a tank build thread here on canreef under this link
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=95033

But now comes
The GHL Mitras LED coral test!

Photo uploaded is of a very sorry for itself looking chunk of what used to be green with purple edges plating Montipora. This is what is left from my huge colony. As you can see its not very colourful, yes it has some purple showing through just about, and yes the water is slightly cloudy thanks to Prodibio kicking up a nice bio bloom while the tank matures. But I think we all can agree my camera work does not get good enough for photoshop.

So lets wait a few weeks and see what colour this goes under GHL Mitras LED:) Place your bets please :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...94864522_n.jpg

reeferfulton 03-22-2013 09:19 PM

.cool . be nice to see the change .

Anyone else running windows 8 able to actual connect to there mitras . I have tried everything online .. including disabling windows usb licence requiremnts in the advanced startup .. It will not connect to my pc .. sees that there is a mitras there in the device manager. with a yellow flag , but wont allow it to connect ..

Brought a pc home from work (XP) . connected imediatly ....

whish i could get this sorted out .

lastlight 03-22-2013 09:21 PM

sorry man i'm on XP as well. Did windows do the driver search for you? mine was yellow too until this happened.

subman 03-22-2013 09:22 PM

I gave up trying to get my surface pro (win 8) to Connect. I did the same as you and used an old pc running xp

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 09:29 PM

Try this if no go post on the support forum, I believe the new software comes with different drivers to select

1.From the Metro Start Screen, open Settings (move your mouse to the bottom-right-corner of the screen and wait for the pop-out bar to appear, then click the Gear icon).
2.Click ‘More PC Settings’.
3.Click ‘General’.
4.Scroll down, and click ‘Restart now’ under ‘Advanced startup’.
5.Wait a bit.
6.Click ‘Troubleshoot’.
7.Click ‘Advanced Options’
8.Click ‘Windows Startup Settings’
9.Click Restart.
When your computer restarts, select ‘Disable driver signature enforcement‘ from the list. You can now load your modified driver. Reboot again once the driver is installed and all will be well

support forum
http://forum.aquariumcomputer.com

subman 03-22-2013 09:32 PM

I tried that and a few other things but still no go. I personally hate having to configure my computer to get it to work. I'm hoping the next software version fixes this.

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 09:34 PM

The issue sadly is freakin win8 I refuse to use it. My wife purchased a new laptop, took it back after 3 days and demanded they down
graded it to Win7!

There is a legal clause in all licensed software that if you buy a later version they must for free supply you with the older on request.

subman 03-22-2013 09:35 PM

I love windows 8.

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 09:37 PM

There will always be one in the crowd somewhere :mrgreen:

I did a lot of googling when my wife was throwing her knickers around with stress from win8, microsoft has lost millions in revenue since launch, its been the biggest driving force to Apple.

subman 03-22-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 804755)
There will always be one in the crowd somewhere :mrgreen:

I did a lot of googling when my wife was throwing her knickers around with stress from win8, microsoft has lost millions in revenue since launch, its been the biggest driving force to Apple.

So I'll just use my MacBook to program it then I guess:twised:

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 09:53 PM

Yep you can do using VM

subman 03-22-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 804757)
Yep you can do using VM

I love my Mitras and all my ghl products but you need to see the areas that need to be fixed. This is one. No win8 support or mac support is terrible. And saying use a vm on the Mac instead of "It's something we are looking into" is very frustrating.

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 10:09 PM

I assume by YOU you refer to GHL, well I hope so ;)

This is something that has been covered in the support forum. To develop Mac software would cost in excess of $50,000, would GHL get $50,000 of sales for this development when VM works just as well and costs nothing? The answer is of course not. Mac still remains the underdog of global user base, whether that changes of course time will tell.

Windows 8 is the bug bare of many software company not just GHL, its an uphill battle, GHL do not hold the magic wand to the cures of the issues that come with Win 8, its known to be an issue with all sorts of softwares, so sadly GHL are in the same boat as many others with this issue.

I would love to give you a more positive answer, but GHL cant spend out $50,000 on something like that (You dont see Ecotech with Mac support) and we have to wait I guess for Microsoft to wake up and smell the roses.

subman 03-22-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 804766)
I assume by YOU you refer to GHL, well I hope so ;)

This is something that has been covered in the support forum. To develop Mac software would cost in excess of $50,000, would GHL get $50,000 of sales for this development when VM works just as well and costs nothing? The answer is of course not. Mac still remains the underdog of global user base, whether that changes of course time will tell.

Windows 8 is the bug bare of many software company not just GHL, its an uphill battle, GHL do not hold the magic wand to the cures of the issues that come with Win 8, its known to be an issue with all sorts of softwares, so sadly GHL are in the same boat as many others with this issue.

I did mean ghl sorry, I do tend to put you and them together but it's not fair and I apologize for that. I do understand the costs involved and the bugs with the latest operating systems. I guess I would just love to hear from ghl that they see there is a problem and are working towards a fix.

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 10:15 PM

The bugs are not with GHL but with Microsoft Win8 so it is a bit hard for them to resolve it, however they have done their best to post various work arounds and if you go on the support forum they will try and help you as best as possible.

someone posted something about using USB 3.0 maybe have a look into that?

reeferfulton 03-22-2013 10:18 PM

Ya. I understand windows 8 is possibly the problem. But why does ever y other use device I put in there work?


Either way. My wife has an Air book.. what is the vm thing you guys speak of. I would be happy if one of the 2 house laptops could hook to the Mitras one way or another lol

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 10:19 PM

Depends on the complexity of the device.

We also have win8 users with no issues so it also is machine dependent by the looks which makes it even harder to resolve.

subman 03-22-2013 10:49 PM

Vm is virtual machine basically running windows on you mac

Aqua-Digital 03-22-2013 10:53 PM

I know it turns a Mac into something useful other than a passing fashion statement .........oh cra-p just lit the fuse there didnt I :)

:popcorn:

Jakegr 03-23-2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 804766)
This is something that has been covered in the support forum. To develop Mac software would cost in excess of $50,000, would GHL get $50,000 of sales for this development when VM works just as well and costs nothing? The answer is of course not. Mac still remains the underdog of global user base, whether that changes of course time will tell.

I think GHL is in danger of losing customers to Apex simply because of Mac compatibility. $50,000 in sales is essentially 50 Profilux III's. I'm one customer that is considering changing over in a few years if the compatibility still isn't there, and I could imagine there are at least 49 others around the world that may be thinking the same thing. So yes, I do think it is worth GHL's time and money.

subman 03-23-2013 12:46 AM

I personally love for GHL to move to a web based controller, thus avoiding the Operating system problems. {IE Apex}

Aqua-Digital 03-23-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakegr (Post 804828)
I think GHL is in danger of losing customers to Apex simply because of Mac compatibility. $50,000 in sales is essentially 50 Profilux III's. I'm one customer that is considering changing over in a few years if the compatibility still isn't there, and I could imagine there are at least 49 others around the world that may be thinking the same thing. So yes, I do think it is worth GHL's time and money.

One calculation issue here, where does $1,000 NET profit come from a GHL ProfiLux controller sale come from based on 50 sales = $50,000?

GHL is a global product, if they felt it was worth it they would do it, they are not blind to Mac users there just simply is not the global user base there is with Microsoft to make the expense worth it.

Aqua-Digital 03-23-2013 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 804830)
I personally love for GHL to move to a web based controller, thus avoiding the Operating system problems. {IE Apex}

Web based cant control the massive amount of data the GHL pushes, over 11,000 programmable inputs. You need a good sized web server to handle that.

Jakegr 03-23-2013 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 804835)
One calculation issue here, where does $1,000 NET profit come from a GHL ProfiLux controller sale come from based on 50 sales = $50,000?

GHL is a global product, if they felt it was worth it they would do it, they are not blind to Mac users there just simply is not the global user base there is with Microsoft to make the expense worth it.

You said "would GHL get $50,000 of sales for this development"... I'm not in the retail industry so I did not know that meant profit.

I know GHL knows what it is doing - they make great computers - but that doesn't mean they are above critique and that every business decision they make is the right one. In my view, in order to stay competitive a business needs to invest in its product. Even if that investment does not immediately result in profit, it will keep their product competitive with others in the industry and at least sustain current profit levels.

I know you are not really part of GHL, so I'm not being critical of you at all.

reeferfulton 03-23-2013 05:51 AM

In my opinion .

They will have have to fix this issue with windows 8 . This light just launched . so if they intend on being around and supporting they will have to bite the bullet . With the way people upgrade computers these days . it wont be long till there are many people with this same issue ..

If i had to guess its just a matter of time before the new software is written to fix this issue .

I im baffled beyond belief that a 1200 dollar Computer controlled light that just came out wont hook up to a 300 dollar laptop .....

rant to be continued lol

side not .. love the light otherwise so far

Aqua-Digital 03-23-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakegr (Post 804867)
You said "would GHL get $50,000 of sales for this development"... I'm not in the retail industry so I did not know that meant profit.

I know GHL knows what it is doing - they make great computers - but that doesn't mean they are above critique and that every business decision they make is the right one. In my view, in order to stay competitive a business needs to invest in its product. Even if that investment does not immediately result in profit, it will keep their product competitive with others in the industry and at least sustain current profit levels.

I know you are not really part of GHL, so I'm not being critical of you at all.

This must of been a typo on my part as it costs $50,000+ not $50,000 of sales.

Manufacturers as a whole steer clear of Mac software due to the cost, the Mac user base within the reef industry user base simply is not there yet for the return. You would need well over 500,000 sales with all the profit going to just this one option for it to pay off. The expense issue is because of the massive complexity of the GHL software its not just a few inputs that have to be written.

Aqua-Digital 03-23-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeferfulton (Post 804930)
In my opinion .

They will have have to fix this issue with windows 8 . This light just launched . so if they intend on being around and supporting they will have to bite the bullet . With the way people upgrade computers these days . it wont be long till there are many people with this same issue ..

If i had to guess its just a matter of time before the new software is written to fix this issue .

I im baffled beyond belief that a 1200 dollar Computer controlled light that just came out wont hook up to a 300 dollar laptop .....

rant to be continued lol

side not .. love the light otherwise so far

The issue as I said before is with windows, GHL can not fix a windows issue, however just like other companies they are looking for work around yes, and as proven many many Win8 users are happily using the software without issue, so that alone shows you its not a GHL issue.

How can GHL write a fix for every laptop out there that uses a different driver set for windows 8 because windows 8 performs in different ways on different systems.

Its like buying a Ford and expecting Audi to fix your dodgy wipers.

The IMPORTANT thing here is

1. are there win 8 users using the software - Yes (LOTS)
2. is GHL offering active support on the forums to help those that are having issues - Yes
3. Is debating it here going to fix your connection issue - NO

Solution - Go to www.profiluxsupport.com post your issue and allow GHL to work with you to help you get connected with the cruddy old Win 8

But a very important end note I do want to thank everyone of you for your very kind support of the GHL Mitras and that you all have seen how amazing the product is in both light effect and quality. And I am sorry for those that have had issues with Win 8 and hope you do come to understand its not directly a GHL issue, but GHL will do what they can to help those out that have fallen on sword of Microsofts latest offering.

Thanks guys :smile:

Aqua-Digital 03-25-2013 03:21 PM

Tank update pictures. As you can see the Monti colour is coming on fast!

Ammonia = 0
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0.005
P04 = 00.00
Phosphorous = 0.036PPB
Ca = 420
ALK = 7.5
Mg = 1260
Salinity = 52.7
tank temp = 26.6c (80f)
Redox = 345 and climbing
pH = between 7.95 - 8.01 depending on time of day

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...94863478_o.jpg

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...95834012_o.jpg

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...21906308_o.jpg

Skimmerking 03-25-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 804753)
I love windows 8.

Make that 2mike and I went from XP professional to it I said a few curse words at first thou lol but it's not bad

Edmonton newbie 03-30-2013 03:44 PM

with only one can i be in the club too? :mrgreen:

Aqua-Digital 03-30-2013 05:15 PM

everyone is welcome ;)

reeferfulton 03-31-2013 07:56 PM

id like to report that out of the blue i tried one more time with the mitras to connect .

It now connects .. no idea why . I didnt change anything .
so i am a happy camper .

Does anyone that has been running these have any light profiles that they are happy with . ?

i would like to try a few different ones out .
would be awesome
thanks

monza 04-14-2013 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 807108)
everyone is welcome ;)

Except MAC users...

The Codfather 04-14-2013 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monza (Post 811567)
Except MAC users...

I run my profilux quite easily off my Mac FYI.............

Gizmoh 04-20-2013 04:35 PM

I am going to be picking up a couple of these beauties for my new build. What I was wondering is if I could see some pictures of how people are hanging them, I'm going to have semi low clearance on a vaulted ceiling so I am just trying to do some pre planning.

Thanks guys!

subman 04-22-2013 02:28 AM

I'm trying to save my profile to share with another canreefer but can't figure out how to save the profile. Anyone give me instructions.


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