Well I just got home and my order looks good so far besides one zoa which looks all dried up.

I will try to take some pics and post them over the weekend once all coral opens up however I have to say I'm a little embarrassed as I know my pics will turn up like poop even though I have a Nikon D7000 with a vast array of lens; for some odd reason I'm having a really tough time taking decent pics of my aquarium.

Thanks Keith and Anthony for making this happen once again and a big thanks to Doug for picking up my order from Burnaby; huge time saver for me.

Thanks again guys.

2 hours ago...
http://img.tapatalk.com/1854b809-6619-441c.jpg

5 minutes ago...
http://img.tapatalk.com/1854b809-6678-88c5.jpg

The Lakers have opened up but the others are mostly still closed. 3 of the frags also came off the plugs and had to be re-glued.

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I have had frags shipped in bags with just water and no air......no problem. The deflated bags probably have something to do with temperature. Not saying that oxygen depletion isnt the problem and temperature is though.

agreed, I have both received and shipped frags without air at the top of the bag. Never intentionally (when I ship).....but when they get stuffed tightly in a shipping container sometimes this pushes the air out the top of the bag......assuming there are no shipping delays I have never experienced a problem.

I am extremely happy with my order this turn and it looks like even the dried up zoa is recovering; it might take a little time but its definitely not dead.

Ok someone was asking if the rics were good from Burc and in the picture below you will see the bigger ric which i received a month ago on the first order and the one i got today (supposed to be red orange)
I think the frag above might be the LA Lakers Zoas and the neon frog is from last shipment also (looks much much better in person and it is half the size as i was moving stuff around)

http://oi47.tinypic.com/33ubqeb.jpg

Mean red I think
http://oi45.tinypic.com/foz8n.jpg

Crappy pic of the teal and white acan. This is my first acan as I want to see how it does before adding more and I will definitely add more in the future from Burc.
http://oi49.tinypic.com/263zw2b.jpg

Translucent hammer bout 20 min after acclimation
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2jfm96s.jpg


Blue hammer with two frags in front 20 min after acclimation:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/svl3dl.jpg


And a shot of the full tank approx 4 months after I started it:

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2rzqlwh.jpg

looks great!!

Devil's Breaths are still closed and the polyp facing the camera is actually hollowed.. Don't have high hopes for this one's survival....=/
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../WP_000230.jpg

Purple Base Acans
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../WP_000233.jpg

Coasting, do you have another picture of your purple base Acans that are less blue? No matter how I look at mine, it doesn't look like yours or the one on the site. It doesn't look bad, but I expected and would prefer it to look more like yours.

Also, my Neon rainbows are not neon no more...=( not sure why as I have other Coral (Acans and other LPS) with a similar green that didn't turn to this. It's under T5s with a combo of Actinics, Blue+ and Purple+.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../WP_000235.jpg

My most of zoas haven't open yet, but Acan is doing really well.

I bought one zoa frag with five heads. One head is 70% opened and another is 20% opened while the others are clenched shut. Perhaps more time is needed.

Well I'm curious to see what they lOok like after a day... But at work till late today.

Same here, 9 of the 12 frags of zoas I ordered are still closed.

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Day 2 and everything (but the torch) is happy!

Ginu... I'm quite jealour your hammer has arrived happy. 2/2 torch i've gotten has died. Only the frogspawn left alive, and here I was thinking they didn't ship well but obviously yours has arrived great!

Well heres everything 24 (give or take) hours later.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2003.jpg
White lines - little peeved i stick my hand in the tank.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2004.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2005.jpg
Purple base - The way I expected them to be, I'm happy with them. Your's dont look anything like mine Kryos.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2006.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2007.jpg
Nuclears

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2008.jpg
Toxic

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2011.jpg
Blastos

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2012.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2013.jpg
Neon rainbow - I really hope they stay like this, I quite like this colour.



Kryos, what you got looks almost more like the Red Aussie acans I got last time? Maybe?

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ralday2002.jpg

Yea... I definitely expected better, especially since I emailed Burc to reserve it. What makes me more miffed is that someone else who ordered the same thing got the correct one. =/

I specially asked Burc to get me a frag of them, as I didn't want the full colony. He had made the comment he had his hands directly on my order when he found the neon rainbows for me.

Where as before he has made the comment, he has 4 other employees that pack the orders, so I can see error happening there.

Just talk to him about it. When I mentioned the 2 wrong frags sent last time, he made it right. I hear others who missed out this time are looking to place another order soon enough.

What happens to the frags you received in error? Did you send them back? If so, who paid shipping?

I would assume you get to keep them, depending on the situation and what you 2 figure best. I got to keep mine. I cant see anyone sending incorrect coral back.

I ordered torch, got my backup instead - the frogspawn (which I still have), told burc I was a bit upset by this, he put a purple tip torch aside for me, sent it with this order, it of coarse didn't survive the trip, and he has already promised credit for the purple tip.

Alrght, thanks for the advice, I emailed Burc just now. Let's hope he can make things right as I was really looking forward to the purple base Acans.

Mine came in great. Couldn't be happier, but now I'm getting the Acan addiction. Dangit.

My zoa is getting worse. All of the polyps are now closed and the top left one in this picture had expelled it's contents. How are your zoas doing, improving or worsening?

http://snaz.com/marine/sad_zoa.jpg

Most of mine are still fully shut, there are a few heads here and there that almost look like they want to open but dont. If they do not open up by tonight, I do not have mush hope for them. Most orders I get of zoas, open up right away or within a few hours.

Well i got 5 zoas/palys and out of the 5 only three are trying to open up (questionable if they will survive) and two are completely closed and i dont for-see them coming back to live anytime soon...
- the two hammers are awesome (translucent and purple tip - I think they will only get better with time)
- teal and white acan is doing mighty well (I got 4 heads instead of 3 with two baby heads growing on the sides and now I got a acan fever; must get me more)
- orange ric is doing well, just a little on the small side compared to the multicolored one i got last order (I like rics and this guy will only get bigger over time)


I would say that out of the 5 zoas/pallys ordered
- one is perfectly fine and looks gorgeous (I think its the mean reds)
- two are questionable (La Lakers and another)
- two are pretty dead (waiting for them to completely shrivel up, blue eyed blondes and I'm assuming devils breath)

I will post the some pictures up tomorrow as I will most likely get home after the lights go off tonight. I'm also wondering how is that zoas/pallys have issues surviving for a day... its a pity because Burc has some really nice stuff....

For what it's worth, from my last order... My watermelon zoas opened up right away, but they're a notoriously hardy strain...

My boiling reds actually took about a week to fully open up, but now they look good.

My Devil's Breath hasn't opened up either, the one that was hollow is now rotting away, the other two are just shut closed... Again, don't have my hopes up....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../WP_000236.jpg

Acan is looking well, even tho it's not true to the representation. Also, Burc said that mine came with the Purple Base Acan that Coasting got and to wait a week to see if it changes color (yea... I doubt that; even if it does change color, it's still not going to look like the one I ordered)

As for the orange rics, they actually weren't mine, I just ordered for a friend, haven't gotten an update from him.

Yep my watermellons from last order did quite well as well and i really dig their color :) although im starting to think it might be due to their frag size? my watermelon frag was quite large with 15-20 heads on it.

If you guys want Zoas, Ill sell you all mine so I can make room for more Acans :lol:


I'd say give it more time before you full write them off. Maybe our order got banged around a little extra during shipping? 2 of my acans were damaged, still survived but kinda shows there was some rough handling at some point. Blame Fedex?

I have to admit I love my little 4 headed teal and white acan :) and i will definitely get me some more

What kind of zoas do you have?

Sucks that everyone's zoas aren't doing too hot... Maybe it did get banged up or something. I got pink/teal paly's on the last order, came with 15-20 heads and they're all good. Shame :(

Probably none that anyone would actually want lol.

Only have 4 kinds, single frag size, no idea what they actually are.
These are the only ones that wouldn't have to be chisled off my LR.... Thats the last time I use epoxy.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8.../Corals049.jpg
Got some pinkish ones, Redish ones, and some that have a bright orange center.

Had 2 dime sized frags of Sympodium, but the stupid snails moved one, now I can't find it.


I would give your zoas a few more days at least. I'm sure Burc will still make things right... And I know we'll end up doing another order. I already have another $150 worth of coral picked out so it wont take much to hit $300

Ooo the ones below are very pretty :) and your picture skills are awesome (I'm sure I've mentioned that before)... I really need to get me a macro type of lens... My telezoom lens just don't cut it unfortunately and macro lens are not cheap by any means either...

How much for a frag of those? That's a color I don't have in the tank.

Yeah, I bought mine during Broadway Cameras boxing week sale. Still expensive but at least some sort of discount. I just dont like how the image still looks blurry, its the bowed glass :(

No idea what I would want for them, Zoas aren't as exciting to me anymore, especially now that i've discovered other coral I like.... What do you think their worth :P Gotta fund the fun stuff! Wish I could make the frag swap to unload them :(

Kryos - My purple base acans are less blue/purple and more redish today, colour definatly changing. But still not stripy like yours. I know the pics he has on the website were very recent as of the coral arriving, so the corals are bound to look different a few days after arrival as compared to the website. But your's are definatly different.

Well, after a few days of hope I think I've lost all hope for the four out of five zoas.... At least the devils breath survived and its doing very well...


http://oi49.tinypic.com/95n2nb.jpg

Guess I probably will not order Zoa's/Paly's anymore as the majority dont seem to make it alive and its a pity because Burc has some awesome Zoas/Palys :(

i'd send him an email (politely) ;)
I had a frag or 2 show up like that, kind of mushy looking, and he sent me some more right out. the turned out much better. I think it depends on what happens when they are shipped, a lot of the time we dont know how they are handled or temperature fluctuates from being moved from a cool van to a warm air plain or what ever. lol

Oh, I'm well aware of the circumstances, its just a pity that during shipment these things happen :(

Whats really odd is the Devil's Breath had two very large heads along with a baby head and they are doing fantastic, so I am not sure why the others have issues...

i wouldnt write them off yet zoas can stay closed for as long as months before opening...even if some are melting. try to dose some vit c it should help but also move them around. they ship zoas(freshly cut) in newspaper and paper towel from around the world you would be surprised how hardy they can be. give it some time and move them around they may come back.

i have a lunar paly frag that is only now showing its face after 2 mths since i ordered them from fragalot......its not dead unless it melts away completely.

feed your zoas and palys it helps bigtime with growth and colour plus dosing vit c gives them the extra boost they sometimes need:)

I am not giving up on them 100% quite yet besides the one which was blown away after arriving a skeleton.
I've never dosed vit C in the tank (generally I like to keep on top of my water changes and refrain from dosing but I will read up on this b4 dosing)

it may takle some time, since they are in a fragile state start them in lower light and make sure no brown algae is covering their heads. vit c is easy to dose just get the tabs from the drugstore crush it up and add to a high flow area. it will really help get your zoas open...look into it its good stuff just dont overdose:)

good luck and cheers

4 of mine have already melted and the other 8 have yet to open so I don't hold much hope for them.

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Like I said guys, if they are mushy looking, or have a white film over them, just shoot Burc an email and let him know, same thing happened to me, hes really good about fixing these things IME.

Just ask for the bags to have a bit more water in them to allow for more room for error during shipping

Four of the seven polyps on my zoa frag are now opening each morning, two look good and the others are getting there. One dead polyp for sure and another that has not opened yet but still has shape.