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Aquattro 02-09-2015 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 934581)
I would have replied sooner but I was trolling on Rc lol

Catch any dolphins?

reefwars 02-09-2015 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934596)
Catch any dolphins?

I was hoping to but seems like someone beat me to it lol so here I am now talking sand :)

navbc 02-09-2015 03:53 AM

newbie
 
Look nice
Setting up new 180 gal tank nothing in it accept base rock hoping for some suggestion
Of what type of coral and fish to begin with want to eventually have different color and assortment of soft and hard coral

Aquattro 02-09-2015 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by navbc (Post 934598)
Look nice
Setting up new 180 gal tank nothing in it accept base rock hoping for some suggestion
Of what type of coral and fish to begin with want to eventually have different color and assortment of soft and hard coral

Is this a trick to derail an already derailed thread?

Ok, I'll bite. Start with the types of corals you want to keep, and fish that don't eat them.

Masonjames 02-09-2015 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934599)
Is this a trick to derail an already derailed thread?

Ok, I'll bite. Start with the types of corals you want to keep, and fish that don't eat them.

That's not the only way brad. Start with the fishes you know won't eat the coral you want to keep.

gregzz4 02-09-2015 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934548)
I'm on your side if this gets to the bike rack after school!

Ya, I'm there for ya too Albert

Honestly, ya give your opinion about one topic and the next thing ya know you're defending all your practices AND your place of work

Aquattro 02-09-2015 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Masonjames (Post 934603)
That's not the only way brad. Start with the fishes you know won't eat the coral you want to keep.

Sorry, gotta disagree. If you know you're going to have both, I always suggest starting with the coral. Let it settle in, encrust, attach, not worry about overloaded nutrients, etc. Just don't add sand. Or if you do, add a goby. And acid wash it. If you're using Io salt. Otherwise, don't use sand at all. Only MB7.

This is a complicated hobby...

Masonjames 02-09-2015 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934609)
Sorry, gotta disagree. If you know you're going to have both, I always suggest starting with the coral. Let it settle in, encrust, attach, not worry about overloaded nutrients, etc. Just don't add sand. Or if you do, add a goby. And acid wash it. If you're using Io salt. Otherwise, don't use sand at all. Only MB7.

This is a complicated hobby...

Ahh. Well that actually makes allot of sense when I take the time to read it. Here I have a differing opion but I can see the value in what your saying. That may be good practice for many. Thanks for sharing : )

Aquattro 02-09-2015 04:30 AM

Just to be clear, I meant acid wash the sand. Not the goby.

gregzz4 02-09-2015 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934609)
Sorry, gotta disagree. If you know you're going to have both, I always suggest starting with the coral. Let it settle in, encrust, attach, not worry about overloaded nutrients, etc. Just don't add sand. Or if you do, add a goby. And acid wash it. If you're using Io salt. Otherwise, don't use sand at all. Only MB7.

This is a complicated hobby...

So if you're going to add sand, you need to add an acid washed goby - if you're using IO salt.
But otherwise don't use acid at all, or is it let the goby settle in first, and then acid wash the goby before adding the sand ?
Or am I supposed to just use the MB7 in the sand, but only if I add the IO salt ?
I'm totally confused

Aquattro 02-09-2015 04:41 AM

I dunno anymore...

gregzz4 02-09-2015 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934619)
I dunno anymore...

weak

Aquattro 02-09-2015 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 934625)
weak

all I got..

SeaHorse_Fanatic 02-09-2015 05:18 AM

I see Albert's been sharing his "spirits" :wink::drinking::drinking::drinking:

albert_dao 02-09-2015 06:22 AM

And just like that, canreef.

Tn23 02-09-2015 07:54 AM

Wow 10 pages in 2 days! Impressive.

Just to prove Albert wrong... Should we setup sand in my frag tank at the upcoming frag swap? :redface:

albert_dao 02-09-2015 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tn23 (Post 934663)
Wow 10 pages in 2 days! Impressive.

Just to prove Albert wrong... Should we setup sand in my frag tank at the upcoming frag swap? :redface:

Out of context.

Why don't you prove me wrong by adding sand from a tank that's infested with algae, detritus and all. Feel free to add a sleeper goby :D

Tn23 02-09-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 934665)
Out of context.

Why don't you prove me wrong by adding sand from a tank that's infested with algae, detritus and all. Feel free to add a sleeper goby :D

is that usually how everyone starts off their tanks? perhaps if they bought sand from you :p

Pretty sure most of use buy sand in bags from the store that are fresh and clean....... but I'll take you up on that sleeper goby that's for sure :D

Samw 02-09-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tn23 (Post 934666)
is that usually how everyone starts off their tanks? perhaps if they bought sand from you :p

Pretty sure most of use buy sand in bags from the store that are fresh and clean....... but I'll take you up on that sleeper goby that's for sure :D

I'm thinking the tanks with the chronic algae problems that aren't going away, they don't have new sand.

Samw 02-09-2015 09:44 AM

Albert: I told several people with aches to take aspirin. They did and their pain went away.

Person 2: Wrong Albert. I don't have any aches and I didn't take any aspirin. Therefore aspirin doesn't work.

Person 3: Wrong Albert. I don't have any aches and I didn't take any aspirin. Therefore they don't need to take aspirin to not get aches.

Person 4: Wrong Albert. Aspirins don't relieve pain but they should take more vitamins. This is the reason I don't have aches.

reefwars 02-09-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934614)
Just to be clear, I meant acid wash the sand. Not the goby.

I should really learn to check back on these threads......my goby is now phosphate free though :)

Aquattro 02-09-2015 02:13 PM

scaleless goby?

sumpfinfishe 02-09-2015 04:06 PM

The secret is mexican sand for me, I always get 20 lbs from a private beach near playa del carmen, less suntan oils and more crude oil :mrgreen:

reefwars 02-09-2015 05:23 PM

Well shoot now im confused .....do I remove the sand before adding the goby or add the goby before removing the sand?

Aquattro 02-09-2015 05:25 PM

Goby removes the sand. duh

WarDog 02-09-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 934723)
Well shoot now im confused .....do I remove the sand before adding the goby or add the goby before removing the sand?

Yes, but only when in Mexico, and after or before acid bath.

reefwars 02-09-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 934724)
Goby removes the sand. duh

Gotcha....I think ....I better run my plan by you guys :)

Step 1 : remove all algae from system

Step 2 : add sand

Step 3 : add goby

Step 4: remove goby and sand with siphon hose

Step 5: add algae?

Then Repeat as necessary?

jorjef 02-09-2015 06:02 PM

Good lord, now I have to go buy a Goby.... Which ones are best to remove algae sand.....

Aquattro 02-09-2015 06:03 PM

You're not getting this, are you? You're missing acid, MB7, Mexico, and probably the left side of a Twix bar. You clearly aren't qualified to keep dolphins...

Aquattro 02-09-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jorjef (Post 934739)
Good lord, now I have to go buy a Goby.... Which ones are best to remove algae sand.....

sigh....algae sand goby, obviously..

jorjef 02-09-2015 06:09 PM

They are pricey though..and if the sand is too big they get digestive problems and double their excrement production which fuels the algae sand even more!!!
I swear if this hobby doesn't get easier any time soon I'm throwing out the sand and going with bio balls for a substrate.

reefwars 02-09-2015 06:15 PM

Well seems this is a lot of work , so I'm thinking....and correct me if I'm wrong but .....I think I got it.

New plan:


I can remove all my sand to get rid of algae.

I add the sand from dispplay to the sump and put a algae sand goby in display while I dose mb7 to the sump at the same time eating a chocolate bar.

I then remove sand , add dolphin and do a water change with a " good batch" of instant ocean.

I add LEDs ..

Remove LEDs....

Troll on Rc.....

Then I remove goby , add sand ! hook up the seneye and change my name to saltwaterseahorses...



It's a good thing I'm off today I was just gonna test and possibly change out my gfo......good thing I didn't :)

Boy would I have looked dumbbbb...

Aquattro 02-09-2015 06:17 PM

Eureka!! You got it!!

We can put this to rest now.

Should prolly make this a sticky...

Reef Pilot 02-09-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 934633)
I see Albert's been sharing his "spirits" :wink::drinking::drinking::drinking:

I think it is something a little stronger, and in the air... Maybe the pineapple xpress blew it in. Maui, wowie?...

reefwars 02-09-2015 06:21 PM

Thnks guys , looks like I'm off to find a mexican MB sand sifting instant algae goby:)

Latin name: Algaesiftus instagobus

sumpfinfishe 02-09-2015 06:27 PM

bwhahahaha

but don't forget to add a fresh squeeze of lime before adding the mexican sand, that is after removing the goby but before the acid


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