Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board - LEDs and electricity savings

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- - LEDs and electricity savings (http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=95643)

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 801243)

Maybe that's just your whole point to LED? Mine was solely to reduce evaporation. Nothing more. Sure, they're growing on me, but my point was not your point. And yes, I'll save money as I was changing 3 Radium bulbs every 9 months.

Water evaporates to cut down the heat isinit? Like a closed top will evaporate less and rise up the temperature more than a open top. In that case, the heating issue is justified ;)

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 801244)

it goes both ways (just like Kien)

I like to keep an open mind.

Also, I'll just leave this here..

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...an-o-worms.gif

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 801244)

Yes it's a debatable topic, which is why Kiens translation was accurate because it goes both ways (just like Kien) and yours is inaccurate because it only goes one way to state LEDs will not save you many.

Ah yah justified :)

BTW how does kien go both ways? Me curious :question:

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 801249)

Ah yah justified :)

BTW how does kien go both ways? Me curious :question:

You'll have to ask him yourself.

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 801249)

BTW how does kien go both ways? Me curious :question:

do not ask questions you do not want to know the answer to..

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 801251)

do not ask questions you do not want to know the answer to..

How many times have you used that line to run away from productive questions? :twised:

Searching that line gave a result of total 918 threads in canreef. :neutral:

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 801247)

Water evaporates to cut down the heat isinit? Like a closed top will evaporate less and rise up the temperature more than a open top. In that case, the heating issue is justified ;)

I don't even know what you're saying here.

4.37 kWh per day X 0.0914240 (I just paid my bill, took the highest level for worst case scenario) = $0.40 per day

$0.40 X 30 days (just to average a month out) = $12 per month

$12 X 12 = $144 per year

So if I end up spending $$$$ for 3 Ecotech Radions G2 @ $660 each = $1980, this doesn't inlcuded taxes, figuring out how to put these over my tank using a bar system, etc.

So even if we just take the cost of the lights $2079 including GST... It would take 14.4 years to see the value. Now this isn't taking into the cost of new MH and T5's, but even if I religously replace them every 12 months, with a max cost of $200-300, I don't find LED's worth it. Especially when you hear about them burning out, fans quiting, new software, new lenses, new this and that.

Now in saying this, if you are new to the hobby and need to make an investment on a fixture, then maybe LED is a solution, but for us that have already made investments in what we already have, replacements are not worth it in my opinion.

Plus won't there be something better coming out soon?

Oh I wish Dr. Molson was still available for times like this.. Why pay more for Honey Nut Cheerios when the regular ones serve the same purpose... why why why

Honestly my numbers aren't there to justify how much money you'll save on your tank if you switch to LEDs, the numbers will vary greatly. If you're using them for this purpose then you missed the point completely.