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lastlight 11-08-2010 02:20 PM

Wouldn't it be extremely cheap to DIY a monster air driven with some big ABS or pvc? Seems to me the biggest cost is the air compressor/bubbler?

josie 11-08-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 562922)
Wouldn't it be extremely cheap to DIY a monster air driven with some big ABS or pvc? Seems to me the biggest cost is the air compressor/bubbler?

yes! ;)
good skimmer dont have to cost 3000$! :biggrin:

mike31154 11-08-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by josie (Post 562921)
2 months since the skimmer is in action!

We really think it's working great! I think this old technology is quit "soft" on the water... compare to using a needle wheel or other pomp that are hard on water...

our hait algae problems seems to end, the algae is dying and disolving!

The polyps extension is amazing!


mike31154: what glue did you used?


Gorilla Glue

KevinK 11-09-2010 01:48 AM

how often do you replace the stones
 
ok so now as we know thy are great, how often do you replace the stones, or do you sand them off a bit for a nother few weeks.

only down side I would considder is the nois of the air pump.

I used a 40W comp. to feed my needel W. with air, as my skimmer is tall, and hate the sound.

gust ordered a laguna 2900 to build a mesh wheel, thy should handel the suction of air, so I loos the compressor.

however you never know in the future, so always interested to find out how long the w. stones last

josie 11-09-2010 02:24 PM

KevinK:

we change the stones every 3-4weeks...
we made our air stone (33cents each!)

for the air pump mine is really quiet (O2 Max Air Pump,885 Gallons per Hour)

mike31154 11-09-2010 03:10 PM

Check the first photo of my post #18 in this thread. That air diffuser was doing its thing for 6 months if not longer and still producing better bubbles than any brand new store bought wooden diffuser. As you can see, the wood grain is starting to open up quite a bit so sanding or anything else is not going to extend the life of one of these. When I was using the store bought diffusers, I once soaked and boiled a few of them in a vinegar solution in an effort to get more life out of them. The performance wasn't that great after that, but I was able to use them a little longer.

For my skimmer I don't need a piston air pump, the Rena Air 400 diaphragm pump is more than enough and along with the small AquaClear 301 powerhead, you can barely hear a thing. My lighting fans and VorTech pumps pretty much drown out the low hum produced by the Rena.

rayjay 11-09-2010 07:47 PM

I use the pondmaster linear compressor and they are extremely quite.
For my air stones, I use a pair for each skimmer and change them every 4 or 5 weeks, cleaning the removed one and drying it out and using it at the next change.
Two stones get me more than a year service.
The advantage of boring the centre hole is that you don't have to glue an assembly together.

belzebuth 11-10-2010 01:29 PM

Great thread. Tagging along

gobytron 11-10-2010 03:05 PM

none of these pics show what I would consider significant skimmate at all...

I respect a simple, cheaper alternative but I think its pretty clear these skimmers dont even seem to perform better than a coralife skimmer.

Not to knock whats working for you, but there is no way I would never put one of those on my reef...especially with how affordable a lot of the venturi, needlewheel and beckett skimmers have become lately.

I would potentially try one on a nano though...in fact, I think I may just make one this weekend and try it out.

viperfish 11-10-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 563586)
none of these pics show what I would consider significant skimmate at all...

I respect a simple, cheaper alternative but I think its pretty clear these skimmers dont even seem to perform better than a coralife skimmer.

Not to knock whats working for you, but there is no way I would never put one of those on my reef...especially with how affordable a lot of the venturi, needlewheel and beckett skimmers have become lately.

I would potentially try one on a nano though...in fact, I think I may just make one this weekend and try it out.

The amount of skimmate has nothing to do with it. The question you have to ask is does the skimmer pull out enough DOC's to keep nutrients low. I think it's evident, judging by the success of the tank that this skimmer is effective. I for one love to see these air driven skimmers in use, it gets back to the basics of foam fractionation and has some good old ingenuity thrown in to make it all work. If you're looking for effective skimming you don't have to don't have to buy a Bubble King or a Deltec, if you're looking for bragging right then that's another story.


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