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		I Guess I might b on the over kill side. 54 gallon corner tank with a Rio 20HF. Gives me about 1000gph after head loss, I use a spray bar run vertically down the back corner of the tank spraying out at a 90 degree angle. Maxi jet 1200 for a bit more flow to the front. :cool: 
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		Nice avatar Allan! 
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 Danny, I'd say the spray bar will cut that 1000gph down to nothing, unless you have it full of 1/4" holes. 
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		I do, about a dozen to 15 per side and 1 on the very bottom. The bar is about 14 inches long and the holes are 1\4. It give a very even outward floe that seems efficient for a corner shaped tank. 
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 My return to my 230g is from a LG4mdqxsc(or something like that) pump.  With restrictions it's about 900 to 1000 gph.   
	Nice a slow turn over rate from the sump but I have the same pump on the closed loop as well as a 2250gph tunze stream and a 3700gph stream.  | 
		
 :confused:   Two returns on my 230g each with their own Little Giant.  Ones a three and ones a four.  I'm now thinking to cut this back to give the skimmer more time as Brad mentioned. 
	I got a couple of those new Seio pumps and I guess I must have been expecting something more. :neutral: However, I probably should have gotten bigger ones. Oh, and a Mak4 split into two returns on a 67g. That one seems perfect.  | 
		
 People should list thier drain sizes too. That might be handy to know for newbie's aswell. 
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 For what it's worth, I was running a Mag12 on my 150 gal, with a 2" overflow.  I felt it was underpowered. 
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 I wish I had know that a mag 18 would be too much.  I am thinking about putting a smaller pump on the sump and using the 18 for a closed loop. 
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