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jtbadco 03-16-2014 03:11 PM

Looks more like Brooklynela or Velvet to me from the pics. If it's Brook then you will see pieces of skin start to fall off and the Copper will not help. Formalin would work but it may be too late by the looks of the fish.
If its velvet then the Copper should do the trick, but you will need to remove and treat all of the livestock and leave the DT empty of fish for the treatment period.

jay2x 03-16-2014 04:36 PM

Yup both clowns passed away... probably not going to get livestock for a bit. Now how can I tell if DT is free from ich? Or how can I clear the ich problem. The corals survived. And inverts.

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reefwars 03-16-2014 04:42 PM

If the tank is fishless now is the ideal time to let it stay hat way to make sure the ich is gone and look into doing a quarantine tank for new arriving fish it's also a good time to start focusing on doing corals and inverts more while the fallow period Is happening

jay2x 03-16-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 886625)
If the tank is fishless now is the ideal time to let it stay hat way to make sure the ich is gone and look into doing a quarantine tank for new arriving fish it's also a good time to start focusing on doing corals and inverts more while the fallow period Is happening

Is there a test to check if the ich is gone?

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reefwars 03-16-2014 04:46 PM

No there is no test that I know of any ways

Kraken 03-16-2014 05:11 PM

If you plan on adding anything else in the tank other than fish, you will always have ich in the aquarium.

- About the hyposalinity, I couldnt find the research paper that cites it however I believe you are correct in that it was only a certain strain that they tested.

hillegom 03-16-2014 05:32 PM

If your fish truly had icy, your tank should not have any fish introduced to it for 8 weeks at least.
Read this:
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ths-facts.html

Cujo#31 03-19-2014 05:44 AM

Looks like ich to me....not the expert by any means though.What has worked like a million bux for me, was hyposalinity. All natural. No chemicals, less risk, fewer long term effects. Anything I have read up on this all leads to "there is no quick fix" Not to mention your display will HAVE to run fallow (no host) for a minimum of 4 weeks anyhow, 6 on safe side unless u wanna kill everything in ur tank with copper and just run fish only forever... Follow directions TO THE LETTER and seeing as the little guy has been hit fairly hard, drop salinity very slowly. Lower saline actually reduces stress on fish (to a certain point at about 1.08)
My tw bits for what its worth....

jay2x 03-27-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kraken (Post 886510)
If your clownfish is looking that bad, most treatments will not be effective.

Pumping garlic will do nothing as it has no effect on ich . The only use for garlic is an appetite stimulant.

In my experience, the only effective treatment for ich that you can easily get your hands on is copper.

I bring in tons of clowns and have battled ich almost every shipment (mainly from tangs) and if the body is covered as bad as your clownfish, I rarely can save it.

All aquariums have ich, and its normal to get a few cysts on your fish once in awhile. If a fish is healthy and eating well, then it's own immune response will typically fight it off.

The main cause of ich overunning your tank is if a fish is stressed out and it takes over that fish. When a huge population of ich has formed on a single fish, its basically a breeding ground for it and thats how it "spreads and kills" all your other fish. Its the sudden increase in the ich population in your tank that will wipe out all the fish.

What I suggest you do is take the clown out and quarantine it with copper. If you do not have a quarantine, then I would put it out of it's misery before the cysts spread to your other fish.



I shouldve started this garlic before doing crap like cupramine and doing a qt. Xtreme garlic worked well.

after the death of my clowns, I was so devasted that I bought a set of livestock. Lol! This time I both pajama cardinal fish. I have two in my system. And it happened again white spot came and started filling up the their bodies. I was wanted to try the cheapest way is garlic xtreme. It worked well. A few days I thought it was going to be another lost. But by day 4 spots dissipated.

Before
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/28/emy5epa2.jpg


After
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/28/tyrysape.jpg

they are now eating healthy.



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toytech 03-28-2014 12:03 AM

Not to sound rude ,but if you had just been patient and gone fishless for the recommended amount of time your new fish wouldent be sick now . Ich has different stages ,the spots disappear and return at different stages of its life your fish might not be out of the woods yet.


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