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dcw1sfu 05-28-2016 02:57 AM

I've been using the AF products for about 4 months now and have been really happy with them.

I currently use the following AF products:

Probiotic Salt
Coral A
Coral B
Coral E
Coral V
Pro bio s
NP Pro
Carbon
Coral food
Phosphate minus (took it offline as not needed at the moment)
Component Strong
Mineral Salt

I use the component strong rather then their 1+ 2+ 3+ as its much cheaper to mix my own as my tank currently consumes at least 2dkh per day. Ends up being the same product in the end.

I also have 2 liters of Siporax in my sump (60 gallon total water volume)

Myka 05-28-2016 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dcw1sfu (Post 992440)
I've been using the AF products for about 4 months now and have been really happy with them.

I currently use the following AF products:

Probiotic Salt
Coral A
Coral B
Coral E
Coral V
Pro bio s
NP Pro

Awesome! What's your dosing schedule?

Here's mine:

AcroPower 5 mL on even nights (just about empty, will switch to Coral A)
Coral V 3 drops on odd nights
Coral E 3 drops per night
Reef Chili (in place of Coral Food) 3 scoops pery night
Coral B (not using it, don't need it)
NP Pro (not using it, don't need it)
ProBio S 3 drops per night

Carbon (using Rox right now, 120 mL changed out monthly)
No GFO

2L Siporax

dcw1sfu 05-28-2016 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 992443)
Awesome! What's your dosing schedule?

Here's mine:

AcroPower 5 mL on even nights (just about empty, will switch to Coral A)
Coral V 3 drops on odd nights
Coral E 3 drops per night
Reef Chili (in place of Coral Food) 3 scoops pery night
Coral B (not using it, don't need it)
NP Pro (not using it, don't need it)
ProBio S 3 drops per night

Carbon (using Rox right now, 120 mL changed out monthly)
No GFO

2L Siporax

60 gallon water volume

Feed pellets twice a day and reef frenzy frozen once a day for heavily stocked tank. Add coral food and reef roid's to the frozen 3 to 4 times a week.

NP PRO 2 drops daily at night
PRO BIO S 2 drops daily at night
Coral A 2 drops daily at night
Coral V 2 drops daily at night
Coral B 2 drops daily at night
Coral E 2 drops daily at night (I sometimes reduce to 1 drop if I notice coral lightening to much)

5 MLS of component strong per liter added to the calcium / Alk and mineral salt dosing jugs ad per the instructions. Dose 85 MLS of each using randy recipe 1 and dose 2 liters of kalk a day.

I just switched from Rox to AF Carbon and change every 3-4 weeks

Weekly water changes approx 15%

Myka 05-28-2016 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcw1sfu (Post 992444)
60 gallon water volume

Feed pellets twice a day and reef frenzy frozen once a day for heavily stocked tank. Add coral food and reef roid's to the frozen 3 to 4 times a week.

NP PRO 2 drops daily at night
PRO BIO S 2 drops daily at night
Coral A 2 drops daily at night
Coral V 2 drops daily at night
Coral B 2 drops daily at night
Coral E 2 drops daily at night (I sometimes reduce to 1 drop if I notice coral lightening to much)

5 MLS of component strong per liter added to the calcium / Alk and mineral salt dosing jugs ad per the instructions. Dose 85 MLS of each using randy recipe 1 and dose 2 liters of kalk a day.

I just switched from Rox to AF Carbon and change every 3-4 weeks

Weekly water changes approx 15%

Pretty much the same as me, except I think I have more food going in. I'm fairly heavily stocked too, and feed a homemade frozen mash twice a day and pellets on an auto feeder once a day. Plus the 3 scoops of Reef Chili everyday. :) I'm using the Component 1+2+3+ so no mixing, but I'll probably switch when demand goes up.

What's N and P at for you? I'm 0.5 ppm and 3 ppb (0.009 ppm) respectively. My corals were really pale before starting AF, and they've finally started darkening up now.

dcw1sfu 05-29-2016 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 992461)
Pretty much the same as me, except I think I have more food going in. I'm fairly heavily stocked too, and feed a homemade frozen mash twice a day and pellets on an auto feeder once a day. Plus the 3 scoops of Reef Chili everyday. :) I'm using the Component 1+2+3+ so no mixing, but I'll probably switch when demand goes up.

What's N and P at for you? I'm 0.5 ppm and 3 ppb (0.009 ppm) respectively. My corals were really pale before starting AF, and they've finally started darkening up now.

I was showing 0ppb P and 4ppm nitrates so I removed the phosphate minus as I was phosphate limited. Hadn't checked in at least a month prior to this l.

I'm now showing .012ppm Phosphates and 1ppm nitrate

I have also seen amazing improvements in color since switching to AF and have polyp extension on some across that I never had before.

Myka 05-29-2016 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcw1sfu (Post 992517)
I was showing 0ppb P and 4ppm nitrates so I removed the phosphate minus as I was phosphate limited. Hadn't checked in at least a month prior to this l.

I'm now showing .012ppm Phosphates and 1ppm nitrate

I have also seen amazing improvements in color since switching to AF and have polyp extension on some across that I never had before.

Yes, N and P looks better now. :)

Also, I'm getting excellent color and PE improvements too. I started making the transition in late February with salt and ProBioS. I started the supplements mid-April, and then I started the macros and micros beginning of May. It's when I started the macros and micros that I really started seeing improvements.

Here are a couple examples...


Strawberry Shortcake
Apr 27
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7371/2...70ab88027c.jpg


Strawberry Shortcake
May 28
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7414/2...bfbaf6fd27.jpg




Garf Bonsai
Apr 27
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7373/2...c49aed02b7.jpg


Garf Bonsai
May 28
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7204/2...55ddd5ae5a.jpg

Galizio 05-29-2016 01:58 AM

So any of you use some phosphate remover with this method or not?


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Galizio 05-29-2016 01:59 AM

That ssc looks great:-)


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Myka 05-29-2016 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galizio (Post 992524)
So any of you use some phosphate remover with this method or not?

Not I - don't need it. I have some hair algae in the tank, but I'm not concerned about it, it will cycle out. It was there before I started AF.

intarsiabox 05-29-2016 03:45 AM

I can't seem to find any info on Aquaforest's website about Coral A, B, E, V but it seems like that is what is available through Amazon. Coral A is amino acids and on the Aquaforest website they have AF Amino Mix instead. Have all these products been replaced and Amazon just doesn't carry the new line? Is there a reference chart somewhere that lists the counterparts and a recommended schedule?

I started with the AF Reef salt and just did my third water change with it and everything seems fine. I got the Bio Pro S and NP Pro in the mail on Tuesday and started dosing everyday. The only thing I've noticed is that my glass now needs cleaning daily but coral seems happy. The tank I'm trying these products out on is a 40g breeder, I dosed 2 drops each the first day and just one drop each day there after.


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