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BlueTang<3 11-15-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 650597)
steve runs gfo with zeo


Really that's like the number 1 not to do according to zeovit.com fourms

MarkoD 11-15-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 650600)
Really that's like the number 1 not to do according to zeovit.com fourms

That's what I originally thought. But I guess zeo does nothing fort phosphates, so that's why the Gfo is there

Dez 11-15-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 650595)
Still running zeo? Running gfo with zeovit is one of the worst things you can do. I wonder if the leds have anything to do i have heard from a few people with the leds that they are getting cayno.

Yep, still running zeo. Needless to say I didn't do my research. The LFS suggested it running 1/2 lb passively and within a day or 2 30% of my SPS had burnt tips. They are still recovering with dead tips....argh. The cyano started when I had 12 little fire fish disappear on me while I was away, and my T5's were pushing 1.5 years old but I didn't want to buy new bulbs cause I new I was going to DIY my less to replace the T5s. But I had huge problem with my DIY supplier and it took over 2 months to finally get all my parts in, and I probably waited a month before getting around to building the lights. That's what I attribute the cyano to. I'm just happy it's getting better daily....woo hoo. Wes, your tank must be full to the brim now.

Dez 11-15-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by doch (Post 650567)
Wow... I run gfo actively all the time. Have been since way back when when my corals were all brown and wouldn't grow. I've never had burnt or bleached corals. I actually just started using more last month and no bad effects... And that's with full zeo. It's good to hear that things are looking up for you. I half expected your next update to be all softies from the way that you were selling colonies.

New Full tank shot (about 5 mins ago). I am not kidding.
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_3090.jpg

BlueTang<3 11-15-2011 03:41 PM

Yeah my tank was there until I also had a run of bad luck. The auto feeder fell in while we were away and the food and electronics didn't do wonders. Then the hydrant leaked in the front yard so they dug up my whole front yard, next water change I watched 17 colonies melt :(

Dez 11-15-2011 03:51 PM

Ugh, I hate bad luck. Hope that your tank recovery is going well. Winter is here, so it's time to spend, I mean "throw" money at our tanks anyway :)

doch 11-15-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 650600)
Really that's like the number 1 not to do according to zeovit.com fourms

I don't remember them saying specifically DO NOT run GFO, but I know that they said it is pointless. I disagree with them, and I know that lots of people still run gfo with zeo. I'll be reducing the amount that I use once I get around to swapping my Zeoliths.

doch 11-16-2011 01:54 AM

[quote=Dez;650629]New Full tank shot (about 5 mins ago). I am not kidding.QUOTE]

OMG!!! Dez... you've gone soft!

Dez 11-16-2011 02:16 AM

Want any mushroom frags? I have lots :)

doch 11-16-2011 02:27 AM

No thanks... I have one small group of mushrooms that I bought for Vanessa in my tank ... I regularly envision zapping them with an aiptasia zapper.

The Grizz 11-16-2011 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 650794)
Want any mushroom frags? I have lots :)

I'll take them but I will not help you B & E who ever's tank that is :lol: because I know it not yours Dez.

Dez 11-16-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 650805)
I'll take them but I will not help you B & E who ever's tank that is :lol: because I know it not yours Dez.

I can't believe you don't recognize the tank. You are the one who helped me install this tank after all. It is definitely my tank. You'll have to B & E into my house to get to it.

lastlight 11-16-2011 05:51 AM

which tank is that? Neither the frag or display...

The Grizz 11-16-2011 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 650864)
I can't believe you don't recognize the tank. You are the one who helped me install this tank after all. It is definitely my tank. You'll have to B & E into my house to get to it.

OH CRAP!!! I had to take a closer look at the pic and that does look like the frag tank we replaced but still no 100% convinced, take a pic from as far back as you can to show more and I will be a believer. :lol:

sully08 11-16-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 650395)
Yeah, I'm still here. I've been fighting cyan0 for a while now. I had it really bad , plus all summer I was working on my backyard and neglecting the tank. I have over the last 6 months or so have been selling off colonies. It was too much of a forest in there and the stuff underneath the forest wasn't getting light and losing colour. My flow was definitely impeded probably triggering the cyano. Out of the dozen colonies that I sold off, most of them barely fit into a 5 gallon pail. It was hard for me to sell them off and bring them to the lfs, but it was needed for my tank to have a future. Up until a couple of months ago, there were a few colonies that were about an 1" or 2" away from the surface of the water. I have since lowered them and rearranged so that they have room to grow. The corals are continuing to colour up again now that they can see the light and for some reasons my monti's are growing like mad compared to the other corals. Here's a FTS from 5 mins ago, you can see that ugly cyano, but it was way worse before. I've also had to sell of 3 clams as they were touching the glass and corals were growing into them.

Warning - CRAPPY CELL PHONE PICS

Office side (That Green Stag on the left was at the water surface 2 weeks ago, I got rid of some coral to make room and lower/trimmed it a bit)
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_3088.jpg

Living room side
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_3087.jpg

Is that a Majestic Angel I see in there, I would like to get one but I'm worried that he might nip at corals, do you have any problems

Dez 11-16-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sully08 (Post 650953)
Is that a Majestic Angel I see in there, I would like to get one but I'm worried that he might nip at corals, do you have any problems

Yes it's a Majestic. When I first got it a couple of years ago I put him in my frag tank for 2 weeks to see if he nipped. Then I put a clam in my frag tank with him. After being satisfied with his behaviour, he went up into my display tank. No problems ever. But you have to know that they are hit and miss.

Dez 11-16-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 650880)
which tank is that? Neither the frag or display...

It is my 4' frag tank. I have another 5' frag tank where it's all decked out in egg-crate racking. Although, Greg still doesn't believe me, it's true :wink:

sully08 11-16-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 650991)
Yes it's a Majestic. When I first got it a couple of years ago I put him in my frag tank for 2 weeks to see if he nipped. Then I put a clam in my frag tank with him. After being satisfied with his behaviour, he went up into my display tank. No problems ever. But you have to know that they are hit and miss.

Thanks for the feedback, I think that I might take the chance and get a small one, might be better than starting with a larger one

Dez 12-09-2011 05:55 AM

Well, I came home from work a couple of days ago and while still in my coveralls, went to clean the glass with my custom made 1/4" magnet. I was going rather fast and all of the sudden I nick my frost polyps acro and BOOM, everything on that side of the tank came a tumbling. Argh, 2 hours later I managed to fit everything back in with many accidental frags. I found out that the culprit of my rock slide was a little piece of cement chipped off of my custom made closed loop intake rock - Dang. I like the look of the tank a bit better now, or maybe I just like change.

Anyway, here it is. Office Side - crappy phone pic (Sorry :reface:):

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...IMG_3187-1.jpg

Living room side
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/IMG_3185.jpg

As you can see, there's still a bit of cyano, but it is getting less and less daily.

lastlight 12-09-2011 05:57 AM

Still looking awesome =)

Dare I say I see an actual open swim-through there? I must be seeing things!

Reefie 01-22-2012 11:36 PM

I did a whole lot of reading on zeo and cyano, and they suggest zeobak mixed in with coral snow every 2 days until all the cyano disappears.

I tried it and it worked like a charm! 1 drop zeobak mixed with 1 ml of coral snow / 25 gallons.

Haha! Please don't be offended with advice from a noob :wink:

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Originally Posted by Dez (Post 650558)
It's been better lately, last 2 water changes I've been plain old siphoning it out. So if I keep that up it should go away. I replaced my RO/DI filters too. I tried GFO - won't ever do that again. Bleached all the tips of my coral (1/2 lb in a mesh bag in the sump passively).


Dez 03-02-2012 04:01 AM

I have received many PM's asking about my LED lighting so I thought I'd post a couple of pics to show you. I have been using LEDs now for a tiny bit over a year. I have 3 Aqua Illumination SOL pendants plus 4 rows of 1" x 5' DIY LEDs from rapidled.com. 2 rows of 12 x 3watt cool whites and 2 rows of 12 x 3 watt royal blues. This is how they are mounted in the following pictures taken today. Hope this answers many questions. Sorry I haven't updated this journal in a long time.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/photo-16.jpg

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/photo1-5.jpg

BTW if any moderators/staff are reading this, since the edit feature got taken away from this forum, I'm wondering if you could edit the actual Title of this thread to "Dez' Tank Journal" and take out that rock slide part as that is old and doesn't reflect the topic of the entire thread. Please and Thank you :)

Aquattro 03-02-2012 05:34 AM

Dez, title updated.

Dez 03-02-2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 688708)
Dez, title updated.

Thanks so much :)

mark 03-02-2012 10:59 AM

hey Dez, for the lights, the Whites or Blues, how high above the water and what percentages you running them?

Dez 03-02-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mark (Post 688735)
hey Dez, for the lights, the Whites or Blues, how high above the water and what percentages you running them?

Blues and I think highest percentage is about 60%, but it leans more toward the white color. I think the blue portion is only about 35%. They are about 6-7" above the water I think.

lastlight 03-02-2012 03:03 PM

Might be tough to do but if you recall what the tank once looked like in terms of colour etc... which look do you prefer having had LED now for a year?

Dez 03-02-2012 03:28 PM

I like the LEDs better in terms of look, but prefer the halide shimmer. The halide shimmer is more natural. That being said though, I'd never go back to halides even if I was a millionaire. I went from about 1200 watts on my display to under 400 watts without sacrifice in growth. My dehumidistat hardly kicks the bathroom fan on in my sump room anymore and I've discontinued use of my canopy vent to the basement that used to be on 24/7. My evap rate has dropped dramatically and even during the hottest days of the summer the temp fluctuation was almost not noticible. I like the ramp up time/ramp down time that you can never receive with halides. I ramp up the intensities over 4 hours, which means my peak time at my full intensity is less, hence using less power. I like the idea of not having to plan bulb changes (even though I was using $15 halide bulbs before the switch). In terms of coral colors, most of the corals have remained similar colors. They are still bright and nice, some colors pop more while others don't. It's hard to say cause I haven't been dosing all the zeo stuff like te first year and a half, I've regressed to the basic zeo system without all of the other additives. Also, in the last year I have not tested anything but salinity and temp, so I can't say that the LEDs are the sole reason. However, I am super pleased with the coral coloration this past year. But, the halide shimmer will always look more like the sun to me.

Delphinus 03-02-2012 03:52 PM

Wow, pretty solid endorsement. Reduction of shimmer seems a pretty small sacrifice compared to all the rest of that..

Are your DIY LED's in on this 4 hour ramping, if so, what controller did you use for that? (Apologies if you answered this already.)

Dez 03-02-2012 04:02 PM

The DIYs are on a straight on off. They were added to replace my T5s and also to hide the spotlight effect since my SOLs are only 6" above the water. They come on after the ramp time.

Dez 04-17-2012 03:40 AM

Just a quick picture snapped with my phone tonight on the living room side.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/photo-17.jpg

The Grizz 04-17-2012 03:48 AM

Still impressive :biggrin:

Nano 04-17-2012 03:49 AM

Holy crow that's hot. :lol:

fishytime 04-17-2012 03:52 AM

Oh my gorsh....he does still post here!:surprise:.....looking sweet as ever Dez!:biggrin:

rhody605 04-17-2012 03:54 AM

Complete beauty.

Aquattro 04-17-2012 03:59 AM

I see some pieces I NEED in there! :)

I'm gonna have to come out that way one day with my cooler...

fishytime 04-17-2012 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 706380)
I see some pieces I NEED in there! :)

I'm gonna have to come out that way one day with my cooler...

If ya time it right I might be in Etown too:wink::razz:

wmcinnes 04-17-2012 04:20 AM

no kidding! if you ever give your tank a haircut, id love to take some frags to stock my young new reef!

Gorgeous!

MarkoD 04-17-2012 04:24 AM

does your RBTA sting any of your corals? arent you afraid that it might split or move and totally destroy everything

Dez 04-17-2012 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 706392)
does your RBTA sting any of your corals? arent you afraid that it might split or move and totally destroy everything

I got slightly bored of my sps tank a little over 1/2 a year ago so I took the risk. The rbta hid for a couple of months and made it's appearance after we came back from vacation. I guess I'm willing to take the risk since I've always wanted an rbta. I'm glad that I got it, but wish that my clowns would host in it. They prefer hosting in the frogspawn. Can't win everything right?


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