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Enigma 10-28-2012 09:09 PM

It may knock the algae back enough that the problem becomes more manageable and easy to fix. Also, having your tank look nicer may give you bit of an emotional boost and reignite your enthusiasm for your tank and its maintenance. Sometimes it is hard to get motivated when ones efforts don't seem to be reflected in the way the system looks.

dreef 10-28-2012 09:18 PM

It's an amazing product isn't it :) i just started dosing today as i see bits of brown hairy algae popping up in a few places.Time to change the gfo i'm guessing.

cyberdude47 10-28-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreef (Post 759083)
It's an amazing product isn't it :).

It is. I'm definitely sold. Everything I read said it wouldn't work on derbesia and bryopsis but it worked great for me

Cal_stir 10-28-2012 09:58 PM

Do you have any bubble algae, if so, did it do anything to it?

cyberdude47 10-28-2012 10:13 PM

I did have a few colonies of bubble algae but I never documented if it was affected. I cannot see any now but I did add two emerald crabs when I started dosing so I can't say if the algaefix was the result of its disappearance.

Cal_stir 10-28-2012 10:29 PM

I've never had any luck with emerald crabs(I have @ 6 of them now)so I'm guessing the algaefix did it.

Thanks for the thread, good info.

Cal

cyberdude47 10-29-2012 12:05 AM

Today's FTSAttachment 10210

cyberdude47 11-02-2012 04:09 PM

Dose 9, never reported 8. Algae is almost completely gone. It's hard to see but some fine strands remain that are approx 2-3mm, everything still doing ok other than clam isn't opening but between cleaner wrasse picking and increased flow its hard to determine what's ticking him off. Gonna run a few more doses to make sure all spores are dealt with after everything has died off. Ill list a pic on the next dose

Snaz 11-02-2012 04:22 PM

Glad to hear this is working out for you. What will be most telling is the picture taken two weeks after last dose.

cyberdude47 11-02-2012 06:13 PM

Regarding pictures after dosing I will do just for informational purposes but this experiment at hand is for use of algaefix and its effect on derbesia and bryopsis and i do not have any expectation of the products use to complete any excessive nutrient control, I have skimmed heavily during this experiment and have starting my GFO reactor again. During which time I have only done one 25% water change and used a turkey baster sometimes twice daily to remove any settling detritus. So I'm hoping to have the culprit under control but won't be able to tell until dosing stops

cyberdude47 11-07-2012 07:35 PM

Yesterday was dose #10. Algae is almost completely eradicated. There are still some very faint signs of it though buy difficult to see. Started with carbon again and will continue to dose probably until couple more doses to make sure as many spores as possible are killed offAttachment 10257

asylumdown 11-07-2012 10:17 PM

This stuff recently saved my tank. I know my algae problem started because of a high nutrient condition, but once it was there, I think I had enough algae to basically outcompete any of the other sources that would normally remove nutrients from my tank. I think it's telling that as Algaefix wiped out the algae in my tank, my phosphate and nitrate levels didn't budge (and they were both near undetectable). It's just a guess, but I think an established mat of one of the various species of GHA is going to be a better competitor for phosphate and nitrate than media running in a reactor. The reactor (biopellets, GFO, etc.) can only instantaneously treat the water in the reactor, which is a small percentage of the water that's made it to your sump. An established bed of algae in your tank is 'treating' all the water in the display tank (where nutrients usually first become available), and over a much larger surface area. And unlike GFO, it doesn't clog or wear out over time; it's capacity to consume nutrients goes up the more it grows.

I honestly think there's more to problem algaes than just nutrients and lighting. There's certainly more to it out on real reefs.

FWIW, This was after 4 doses. I didn't stop GFO or skimming, but have never used GAC:
before:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...wn/file-43.jpg
After:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...wn/file-42.jpg

Before:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...wn/file-40.jpg
After:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/...wn/file-41.jpg

lockrookie 11-08-2012 12:19 AM

I'm thinking of trying this for some minimal algae I have on both tanks thanks for keeping us informed its well worth the try even if it helps clear the water


Sent from my porcelain aquarium

cyberdude47 11-08-2012 01:26 AM

Asylumdown. Thx for the post. Good to know it worked well for someone else also. It also saved my tank because if it didn't get the algae under control I had plans to shut down as I had enough o the battle

Psyire 11-10-2012 04:40 PM

I'm trying a bit of an experiment with this stuff as I'm cycling my tank right now. My goal is just to reduce the algae breakout during the cycling process.

asylumdown 11-10-2012 05:33 PM

The little stubbie bits you could see in the photo I posted are all gone now. This stuff is incredible. It looks like hiding in the masses of the rest of the algae were a couple of patches of Bryopsis though, and man that stuff is stubborn. At least with the super low nutrients it's not growing at all, but it worries me that it's sitting there like a ticking time bomb.

reefloving 11-10-2012 08:42 PM

Algaefix
 
It's the API brand?

asylumdown 11-10-2012 10:43 PM

yah, API. I didn't think it was made by any other companies? You can get it on Ebay if you find a seller who's willing to ship it to Canada. I tried ordering it from a couple places in the US like Petsmart and some of the big online reef stores and they all have an automated block on Canadian addresses (at least the ones I tried).

cyberdude47 11-11-2012 12:05 AM

I can get it in but shipping it is costly if its just that getting brought in. Ends up being about $40 a bottle unless I order other stuff to bring the cost down

Psyire 11-11-2012 12:12 AM

I found it on a well known auction site and bought 3 bottles for $75 including s/h.

cyberdude47 11-11-2012 02:28 AM

$25 a bottle is pretty good. Way better than what I paid

dreef 11-11-2012 02:34 AM

Both times i bought off off ebay,it came from hongkong.The last time i bought the big 16 oz. bottle,was just shy of 30 bucks shipped to my door.

cyberdude47 11-24-2012 05:51 PM

Been a couple weeks since the last dose. I have seen an increase if algae on the glass but nothing more than a slight dusting. As for hair algae the only spot I noticed that came back is about a 1mm round but in the tip of a acro. Havnt had the chance to test for phos as I still don't have a test kit but by the look of things I'm not terribly worried. The fuge is back online and even the algae growth rates in there havnt been significant. GFO and carbon is still in effect. Clam is still ****y. I tried moving it into the fuge for a bit and it opened back up partially for a while then I put it back in the display tank it again doesn't want to show its face so my conclusion is something's picking at it. Overall I'm going to say that the experiment was a complete success with no noticeable side effects

Snaz 11-24-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberdude47 (Post 767072)
Been a couple weeks since the last dose. I have seen an increase if algae on the glass but nothing more than a slight dusting. As for hair algae the only spot I noticed that came back is about a 1mm round but in the tip of a acro. Havnt had the chance to test for phos as I still don't have a test kit but by the look of things I'm not terribly worried. The fuge is back online and even the algae growth rates in there havnt been significant. GFO and carbon is still in effect. Clam is still ****y. I tried moving it into the fuge for a bit and it opened back up partially for a while then I put it back in the display tank it again doesn't want to show its face so my conclusion is something's picking at it. Overall I'm going to say that the experiment was a complete success with no noticeable side effects

Fantastic. I think I will try this with my nano. Thank you for the documentation.


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