Interesting, then why my copperband don't want to eat the pacifica plankton? he just spit them out and does not touch it after that, but he does heat the PE mysis.

BTW, Acans and dendro will eat anything...so they are not really a reference here.

just curious to see where you got your info on the nutritional profile of them? Here is what I found:

PE Mysis
protein - 69.5%
fat 8.35%
Fiber 2.75%
EPA 15.09% total Fatty Acid
DHA 10.59% total Fatty Acid

Hikari Mysis
protein - 70%
fat 6.7%
fiber 13%

SFB Mysis
Protein 46%
Fat 5.5%
Fiber 3.7%

SFB Krill:
protein 75%
Fat 28%
Fiber 8%

Argent Labs Dried Krill
Protein 71 %
Fat 10.9%
Carbohydrates 8.7%
*This one includes HUFA analysis, its the percent of all fat, not all matter*
HUFA’s 40.8%
EPA 18.4%
DHA 11.1%

Hikari Plankton (I believe it Euphausia pacifica, a type of krill)
Protein: 57%
Fat: 7%
fiber 16%

I think Tim's answer was correct to this as well. If you are only going to highlight partial responses. His full quote stated the following.

So I will restate that this is strictly an opinion forum from fellow members. So whether you use Hikari, or PE Mysis or Pacifica Plankton or pellets or Hot Dogs....whatever you find works best...use them! My Copperband will hardly touch plankton but gobbles down bloodworms{doesn't matter what brand} I am always open to try new types of food and watch how my fish react to them, if I find something they like I will reuse it, if they don't like it it's kept as a memory and I won't use it again. Am I a die hard ingredient reader??? Most of the time-yes, however without beating a dead horse here, I think that most of the higher end food you can get from your lfs or supplier is usually fairly decent. How your fish take to it is another story. I have had fish that won't touch certain foods and later had the same type of fish gobble them up. So nobody can tell me that for the most part a certain type of marine fish will only eat one type of food as there always seems to be an exception to the rule. Just look at some of the carnivorous fish that go at Nori. Again this is a forum where it is each members opinion of what they think is the best fish food. If you have a loyalty to what works best for you then great, but what works best for one doesn't always work for another, so whether one foods ingredients seem higher and better in writing, if your fish doesn't like it....it's a waste of money. As with human beings, while some might like the Keg for steak others are happy with a sirloin burger from A+W, fish have their favorite foods as well, so Vive la Difference.:biggrin:

As to not mislead people, I don't actually feed hotdogs :)

Really, no hot dogs. uh oh!!! Again utilizing misleading info. What am I gonna do with the dozen smokies I just ultra-finely chopped? lmao

Hi,

First; Copperband Butterflyfish are sometimes difficult to get started on Plankton or Mysis as they normally eat worms etc.
Second; Since you have had it a while it has been trained to eat PE mysis.

By wild fish I meant fishes that have recently been imported. ie less than 3 weeks from time of capture on the reef.

Ok, I have pictures of Acanthopyllia, Caulastrea, Cynarina, Favites, Lobophyllia, Moseleya, Symphyllia all eating it. Most LPS will readily eat it.

The information was provided by the supplier of the plankton. I mention that on the product page on the website, just after the lab analysis.

Cheers,
Tim

Tim what country does the product come from and where is it packaged?

I note that many Hikari products (used to be a quality name in the fish food industry) now come from China which makes all of the ingredients suspect.

Ya, I noticed that too, and recently quit buying Hikari.

The plankton is captured in BC ocean waters near Northern Vancouver Island. I process it myself locally. Thus the product is a 100% Local product from start to finish.

I have a Copperband, and he loves all forms of Mysis and Plankton. I mostly feed him freeze dried. He also likes chopped up fresh clams.

But have not been able to get him to eat any type of worms. Have tried to get him on frozen (and freeze dried) bloodworms. However, he just spits them out after sampling them.

Since your Copperband is already eating Mysis, Plankton and the fresh clam you are giving it a good source of nutrition. I would not be overly concerned that it is not eating bloodworms. I could be that the fresh clams and Mysis and Plankton taste better to the fish than the bloodworms.

The main concern is for newly arrived fish that are not eating at all. Then I would offer them frozen bloodworms or live if available. Once the fish starts to eat in captivity it can be eventually trained to accept other foods.

This was my method for training my Copperbands to eat.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73021

I have since sold one of them, as I couldn't get them to play nice. But have had the bigger one now for over 9 months and he is doing great. I am really impressed how he adapted to my bully Yellow Tang and my bulldog Cinnamon Clown. Both still occasionally take a lunge at him, but he artfully dodges them, and resumes doing his thing, without fear (was certainly not the case when first introduced to the display tank).

Only problem, is that he still won't eat my aiptasia, which is why I originally got him. I am probably feeding him too well... He does go around picking at live rock, though, so must be finding something there to his liking.

That was a great video. The magnet in the capsule was perfect.

As for Aiptasia problems my recommendation is to use Florida Peppermint Shrimp for the small to medium size ones. They don't seem to like the large ones so those need to be manually removed. It might be worth experimenting by cutting off the tops and siphoning it out while leaving the base for the peps.

I haven't tried the Peppermint Shrimp yet. I have been told that my Red Flame Hawkfish would eat them. I used to have big Green Bird Wrasse, that would eat them for sure, but I managed to catch and sell him.

I have some hermit crabs that were introduced recently, and still see a couple of them around, so maybe there is a chance the shrimp could survive, too. But they might just be an expensive treat for the hawkfish.

Great information in your posts Tim! And I personally choose to support local as often as possible! Especially when local is proven to be of incredible quality. Keep up the great work Tim!

The Flame Hawk could be a hazard to the peps, especially if it is a large one and they are small. Once the peps are used to the tank they should be able to avoid Mr. Hawkfish since they hide during the day. Since peps are nocturnal there is a chance they could do the job at night with out getting eaten.

If you want to try the peps my advice would be to get the largest you can find, feed the tank heavily the day before you get them and add them at least an hour after lights out. Preferably when the tank is very dark and Mr. Hawkfish has gone to bed.


Thanks Carmen. I agree... local is best.

thanks everyone
 

thank you for all the reply's great to see everyone getting along out there got some ph mysis. have use it before when i had discus they loved it.

good topic i thought