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AJ_77 09-25-2003 08:21 PM

Maybe go back to the top and read the linked thread from aquariumpros.ca - there is a bit of discussion on this, with pictures.

venkiw 09-26-2003 01:46 AM

It takes 100 hours for the bulb colors to stabilise. You can take picture of your 175 10K side by side with the 400Watt 10K after the 100 hour period and post it for the benefit of the members.

Thanks

Venki Worathur

What make is your 175 Watts bulb?

props 09-26-2003 02:08 AM

oh ok kool
heheh
i was worried for a second there eh
heh

my bad
didn't read the aquariumpro thread
=o)

i got a 175 ushio bulb
=o)

venkiw 09-26-2003 02:44 AM

It'll definetly beat a USHIO hands down, no doubt just give it some time.

nbreau,

Check on Ebay, there was guy offering a bare transformer and condenser at a very low rate, he says he can put them in an ABS for additional charge.

smokinreefer 09-28-2003 06:27 AM

so anyone try these in 250Watters yet?
whaddya think of em?
any info on life expectancy of the bulbs?

StirCrazy 09-28-2003 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy
I guess the important question is how long the bulbs will last being overdriven by the HQI-type ballasts.
Andy

a son agro is not a HQI or a HQI type ballast at all, it is simpaly a "different" ballast from a different type of product line that seams to work well in our applications. the only HQI ballasts made that are available to us are 150 watt and 250 watt. there are a few other models but no lights that we would use in thoes wattages.

so the story goes that a son agro "should" decrease the life of a MH bulb, but a 250 watt HQI ballast used on the tright types of bulbs will actualy increase the life of the bulb over that you would obtain with a standard ballast.


Steve

smokinreefer 09-28-2003 07:28 AM

hey steve,
if i go 250W HQI, what kind of ballast should i be looking for?
will i be able to run both, these 10,000k and 6500k bulbs with it?

so i understand, the SA ballast is actually a 430W ballast, so is the 250W HQI actually 250W? is there actually a benefit to me, to run a 250W HQI as oppossed to a regular 250W ballast?

beaker020 10-01-2003 05:20 AM

Just got my bulbs today. Ordered them late Thurs evening, shipped Friday and arrived Tuesday. Very speedy delivery. I hooked one up side by side with my 2 month old iwasaki's and all I can say is "WOW!" Do those iwasaki's ever look like crap! The 10k's from venkiw look much brighter and there is no need for actinic supplementation.

I will try and post a pic in a day or two

Thanks Venkiw

Lance

stephane 10-01-2003 05:53 AM

HQI is simply another aquarium legend noting more

HQI is a osram trade mark for there Powerstar metal halide bulb line from 70 to 3000 watt mogul base and double ended all included. For exemple calling a hushio double ended bulb a HQI is like calling a Yamaha snowmobil a skidoo

here is a link to the only real HQI bulb in this world http://www.osram.com/pdf/service_corner/hqi_e.pdf

a bit of story http://www.sylvania.com/press/09142000.html

here is the catalog of all HQI bulb http://www.osram.no/brosjyrer/english/K01KAP5_en.pdf

Andy is not realy rong calling his ballast (Sodium son agro 430) a HQI ballast because it is the right ballast to run the REAL HQI bulb
see this link http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Spec%20She...20HQIBT400.htm



But if you go in europe HQI is the way to call ALL metal halide
no mater it is a mogul or a double ended so any metal halide is a HQI anyway :idea: :idea:

venkiw 10-01-2003 01:48 PM

Thanks Lance for the excellent feedback.

Delphinus 10-01-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephane
calling a hushio double ended bulb a HQI

Stephane is there a website for this brand of bulb? When I go to www.hushio.com I get "site not found"

stephane 10-01-2003 09:18 PM

http://www.ushio.co.jp/english/index.html

wayner 10-01-2003 09:38 PM

Be nice now Tony!

wayner 10-02-2003 02:07 AM

Fired up my 400w 10K from Venkiw tonight, definately on the yellow side, but keep in mind that I had a 400W Radium on there for 8 months.

I'll sit tight & wait for the break in period to be over before I give final opinion.

It fired up up right away off my E-Ballast and it's bright alright.

The packing of the bulb was excellent.

Venkiw: Can you give an approx timeframe on when to change out the bulb?

venkiw 10-02-2003 10:14 AM

Wayne,

I hope you are not comparing it to a 20kK. I wouldn't think that would be a fair comparison. By the way how MH do you have in the hood and what are the specs for each.

We recommend replacing the bulb every 12 months.

Thanks

Venki Worathur

wayner 10-02-2003 03:22 PM

Not comparing it to the 20K Radium at all, I was saying that since I've been used to the Radium for the past 8 months this might be why it appears yellow to me, also I beleive there's a burn in period of 100 hours?

I'm sure it will whiten up in time. one thing that did happen in my tank about an hour after I changed out the bulb was that my Turbo snails went into a spawning frenzy, the water turned milky.

I might put one of these bulbs in my bedroom to see what I can trigger!


I'm not running any other bulbs other than the 1 400W.

1628 10-02-2003 08:51 PM

So if I only have flourescent tube for now and I wish to upgrade to MH light what do I need besides the bulb that you are selling? And how much would the other accessories costs? Thanks!

venkiw 10-03-2003 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1628
So if I only have flourescent tube for now and I wish to upgrade to MH light what do I need besides the bulb that you are selling? And how much would the other accessories costs? Thanks!

You probably need a reflector, mogul socket, ballast, wiring (if bought as seperate items). There are a couple of cooltouch lighting sold on ebay check it out may be under 200$.

I am getting some electronic ballast end of this month.

smokinreefer 10-03-2003 03:51 PM

250W MH electronic ballasts by chance?
do you have a price on those yet?
*my mind is a churning'*

venkiw 10-03-2003 04:41 PM

CAD$ 115 for the 250 watts electronic ballast, end of this month I'll have them in stock.

Venki

ree-fready 10-04-2003 04:00 PM

ballast for bulbs
 
I have a m59/h33 400w and a m58/h37 250w ballast that I am using now both are Sylvania metalarc magnetic ballasts. Are they going to fire your bulbs correctly? Thanks.

dbdavid 10-09-2003 02:52 PM

Hi Venki, how about the 400W electronic ballasts. When will you be getting those and how much? Any chance of a bulb ballast special price? I would be looking for 2 of these. Also will the 400W Iwasaki bulbs work on your ballasts? Can you list some of the specs on these ballasts?

Thanks
Dave

wayner 10-09-2003 03:54 PM

Very happy with the 400w 10K bulbs, there burning in a bright white, great deal!

venkiw 10-09-2003 05:28 PM

I had one member who has indicated that the nipple in the horizontal postiion produces the best color output. So if any of you have these bulbs please do try this out.

Venki Worathur

Stretch 10-10-2003 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venkiw
CAD$ 115 for the 250 watts electronic ballast, end of this month I'll have them in stock.

Venki

Awesome I'm gonna be upgrading soon, Who make these ballast? Hopefully you can have them quickly.I was plan of buying icecap 250's but this will be alot cheaper. Will you still have the bulb 250 bulbs available then too? Because i'll probably order 2 of each

venkiw 10-10-2003 01:16 AM

These are OEM brands made in China. Will definitely have them in by 25th October.

Stretch 10-10-2003 01:26 AM

Well i think i can hold out that long :lol: It will give me time to complete my canopy and order a second reflector

dbdavid 10-10-2003 02:56 AM

Venkiw, you have PM

Canadian Man 10-10-2003 05:53 AM

got the bulbs today. Very well packaged. Thanks.

Nice bright white light :cool:

props 10-26-2003 03:08 AM

ordered bulbs monday
shipped tuesday
got it thursday
2x250 mh

its sooo whiteeee! whiter than my 10000k ushio
thanks venki

oh yeah
is there a break in period on these bulbs as well?

venkiw 10-29-2003 03:28 AM

175 watt 10K is now available, also the 250,400 watt ballast
 
For those of you who wanted the 175 10,000K, they are now in stock.

The 250 & 400 watt ballast are in but is running out fast, so hurry in with your orders. Please check avaiability with me before placing orders.

AJ_77 10-29-2003 04:13 AM

Venki, I lost the note with the bulb prices. Would you mind posting them here? (Especially for the 175.)
:biggrin:
Thanks!

venkiw 10-29-2003 10:36 AM

10,000K light bulbs

175 watts - 42CAD (170 grams)*
250 watts - 45CAD (170 grams)*
400 watts - 48CAD (180 grams)*

Shipping charge for 2 bulbs = 15$ add 3$ for each additional bulb.

Electronic Ballast

250 watts E-Ballast - 115CAD (2Kgs)*
400 watts E-ballast - 120CAD (2Kgs)*

Shipping Charges for Each Ballast = 25CAD

Add 7% GST for All provinces except Ontario, for Ontario add 15% GST & PST.

* Shipping weight will be more in view of box, bubble wrap, paper stuffing, etc.

mr_alberta 10-29-2003 01:23 PM

You wouldn't be getting some 150W Double Ended bulbs anytime soon would you?

venkiw 10-29-2003 01:41 PM

Double endeds wil be introduced beginning of next year.

Thanks

jdespins 10-29-2003 02:16 PM

Venkiw I PM you.

jdespins 10-29-2003 03:48 PM

Has anyone tried this e-ballast? Comments? I am serious condsidering this deal

reefburnaby 10-29-2003 05:44 PM

Hi Venkiw,

Do you have a picture of the ballast?

- Victor.

LostMind 11-07-2003 08:58 AM

Just a bump to see if anyone has any experience with this ballast...

Stretch 11-09-2003 11:49 PM

The result are in on venkiw's bulb, Not as higher PAR value as Iwasaki but still quite impressive.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...92#post1971092


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