What does bother me is if I pay for something that is shipped and I don't get that thing that I paid for. Luckily, it doesn't happen often.

What also bothers me is if someone offers something for sale and I reply to buy it at the advertised price and the seller doesn't respond and doesn't update the ad to say that it is sold. Makes it look like the ad was fake.

someone needs to change this thread title to, "The Soap Box" :lol:

These are the days of our reef life! :biggrin:

Have at it! I had a different title in mind lol

that kind of language is frowned upon here. Let's keep it classy (ish).

Careful....someone's going to want a formal apology. D'oh!

I was selling some extra Entertainment Coupon books that I bought and posted on CL. I sold them for $12 ea and got quite a few people asking me to deliver it to them. :) That was annoying. :) I think only 1 out of 6 people who replied to my ad would come and buy them without asking for some extras. Those were MSRP $50 USD books that I was selling for $12 CAD and people still wanted to bargain for a better deal.

I'm telling you the world needs more Tom's......

Don't you dare mention my name.

aka tire king right here folks... literally.

You bastard. It was suppose to be our dirty little secret.

and that's fine - people are allowed to do follow ups on the explanation, just like any review the reader needs to interpret the ones which are probably far fetched when there is probably a list of good reviews.

so no - I'm confident when two good people deal with one another, there is an understanding. when a good seller sells something, and a bad apple puts a bad review.... that's going to come out if someone actually searches the posts and other reviews that bad apple has put up as well.

Don't believe me, look up www.thirdgen.org on the classified section. just like car parts, one could say "he never shipped me what I bought" or "it doesn't work as explained". its upto the seller to take the chance of sending live stock which could be DOA, so that's a high risk, so up to them....because of that I would stay away from it

keep in mind, these are all just opinions (so I'm not saying I'm right) - however I think canreef instead of avoiding the inevitable (buying and selling of stuff) - might as well try to help the people. anything is going to be better than nothing. Sure there is going to be the exception (as there always is) but its going to reduce the risk at least.

Perhaps not enough people on here have done the e-bay thing to understand how to dicier honest reviews and question the bad ones.

Your always going to have those that cheat the system by making false accounts just to give themselves good reviews etc. Right now.... its a lot easier to pull of scams though. it seems canreef is over worried about liabilities and think people will blame them for this - simple start off a disclosure indicating potential warnings still and its used to reduce scams but still can happen.

on the twist side.... I've bought and sold stuff at a distance already......can you see how that can become good really fast? :wink: unfortunately I have nothing to show for it, and people browsing online who might want some of the hardware I have would have been more enthusiastic to purchase at a distance had there been previous reviews.

one of my favorites is when you sell something for say 110, and someone shows up after agreeing to 110 and then don't have correct change and look at you like you should just give it to them for 100.

I have actually lost a couple of sales because of that.

If you don;t bring change, you pay more or come back with the agreed upon amount.

now I always have change because this happens SO much.

Like probably 1 out of 3 transactions.

for those that think this would be too much administration - its not. The only explanation in my opinion that can reef should decline such a system is if the suggested i trader platform inst' compatible with the current one, or it costs money.

being paranoid about hurting peoples feelings... well... either that, or I can start calling out names on for sale threads etc. because people deserve the truth about transactions - I don't plan on getting nasty but for example. Buying powerheads from a guy in Calgary who didn't include the much needed power supplies.... took 3 months to ship them..... people get busy.. procrastinate etc.... I would just state the fact. Its going to promote him/her to either A, decide not to ship next time or B be more diligent not to forget parts or C, realize their screw up and send right away and maintain an good status.

screen shots curtosy for www.thirgen.org (see under left pane sig for "classified rating":

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76516329/1.JPG


when you click on link, you can see reviews.... you can question if the people leaving reviews are legitimate as well by clicking on their status's as well.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76516329/2.JPG

oh yes... they "forgot" alright......or half of them are looking to use that as their leverage of course to get something cheaper. good on you for being firm!

Still turns into a he said/he said and we're not here to mediate arguments. We offer a forum to buy and sell, and it's offered under the "use your own discretion" guidelines.
Honestly, there have been very few conflicts other than the trivial complaints offered here. If somebody didn't read your ad properly and missed your posted availability times, FFS, just work it out. someone doesn't show, sell to someone else. If it's that much trouble, give it away, toss it out, or put it under your stairs. I've yet to read anything in this thread that isn't classified as first world reef problems, and honestly, the staff all have better things to do that manage seller reviews.
Oh look, coffee time :)

for sure.
it's a good feeling when they "remember" they have a 10 in the car.

Aren't we getting carried away here a bit, making a mountain out of a molehill? The thread was good to remind people of pet peeves by both sellers and buyers. But really,... these are pretty minor issues compared to what happens with other online buy/sell sites. I worry more about scammers, but have yet to encounter one here on canreef.

I have bought and sold a lot of frags and other stuff here on Canreef. Can't say I have ever had what I would call a bad experience. Sure, there were a few times (but not very many) where someone didn't show, or respond back to me. But nothing out of the expected. Everyone isn't perfect and there are often unknown extenuating circumstances. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt unless direct evidence or experience indicates otherwise.

In fact, I would say, have got to known personally many local canreefers that otherwise would just be names on this forum. So I would say the positive vastly outweighs any negatives with our Canreef classified section.

Ya think?? :razz:

THIS THREAD IS F_______ AWESOME !!!

+1 to all the key points

ebay feedback system coming??? Right on !! Lol

Let's go over key points.

Bored
Have Internet Access
Feeling whiney
No idea what a real problem is

Yup, pretty much covers it :)

Whiner rating system coming soon!!

LOL sounds like the whiner rating system can just be done in this thread :razz:

Bored
Have Internet Access
Feeling whiney
No idea what a real problem is

It's like you're writing my life story...or at least the PG version.

sort of summed it up by calling it "first world reef problems".

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Amen

+1 on the whiner rating system now that's a good idea right there lol :mrgreen:

http://www.adamsmith.org/wp-content/...est-violin.jpg

Does anyone what that is? :mrgreen:

Mods are all on the island where life is simple so they don't understand the stress we go through on the mainland....life is tough out here trying to buy and sell. I am simply trying to eliminate those time wasters that's all. :biggrin:

LOL!!!!

LOL... Hey... I live on an island.... I'm on the BlackList?

No comment....

Bored - Nope, just a little disappointed with some members
Have Internet Access - Umm, Yup
Feeling whiney - Hell Ya !
No idea what a real problem is - Not true. Bitching here about small stuff keeps my mind centered, so what's the problem ?
Blowing off steam is healthy :biggrin:

And for the record, some peeps are prone to backing out of sales in the 11th hour (ME, sorry Thomas) but that happens (I gave him 4 hours notice :redface:)
And sometimes people keep trying to lowball sellers (ME, sorry BYee). This is part in parcel of the forum.

How about new rule is you post a price or o.b.o
If a member has a firm price and you low ball. You get put on a magic black list

Cheers

are you firm on that rule?


... I think my jokes suck today.

Lol. Do you wanna be??

Lol. You're starting to make me feel special. Hope you are not teasing me about it. :wink:

Lol. Blacklist. Cmon, no such thing. But fun to joke about ;)

That's what I would say if I didn't want to let on about the list. If it existed.

Nah, we're just having fun. However, I'm sure we all have our own blacklist of people we don't want to ever deal again with. People bringing nickels and dimes to buy frags, wasting your time spending several hours and not buying anything, being just down right stupid in low baling etc... We all have a list. I admit I have my own list and these are people I don't care to invite over to my home.