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lastlight 02-14-2015 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 935592)
Now if I could just get Denny to come to my house to do water tests..

Better free up a few hours :lol:

spit.fire 02-14-2015 11:11 PM

I test my water at the store :D

hillegom 02-14-2015 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spit.fire (Post 935699)
I test my water at the store :D

One of the perks :lol:

spit.fire 02-14-2015 11:49 PM

Tbh I haven't tested my water since I set up my tank almost 10 months ago

Kraken 02-14-2015 11:59 PM

Yea, I have a few customers myself who always wants us to test their water. Personally not a huge fan of it, but it brings them to the store and they always buy stuff when they are here so there are upsides to it as well. Those who leave immediately after tho make me sad =(

albert_dao 02-15-2015 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraken (Post 935706)
Yea, I have a few customers myself who always wants us to test their water. Personally not a huge fan of it, but it brings them to the store and they always buy stuff when they are here so there are upsides to it as well. Those who leave immediately after tho make me sad =(

lol... I feel your pain!

reefwars 02-15-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraken (Post 935706)
Yea, I have a few customers myself who always wants us to test their water. Personally not a huge fan of it, but it brings them to the store and they always buy stuff when they are here so there are upsides to it as well. Those who leave immediately after tho make me sad =(

absolutely , its the only reason we decided not to charge for it.......we were all there once for sure and the majority are just looking for help and assistance:)
and it would suck to lose a customer or get a bad review based on something as small as a water test.


lol we had a thread of what people hate about their stores that had alot of interest and ideas etc brad had said it would be funny to see a store post for what they hate about customers lol i still think it would be funny to see lol (although im not touching that with a 10ft pole lol)

:P

Kraken 02-15-2015 12:11 AM

Yea man. Dont you just hate it when customers pick their nose and put their hand in the water?

freezetyle 02-15-2015 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 935625)
a guy that was at my house trying to screw me for frags. While he was trying to get free frags out of me, we're talking, and he explains how he doesn't need to buy this and that, since he can borrow stuff, use the LFS's good nature,

feel free to out that person to the LFS, maybe they can talk with them.

WarDog 02-15-2015 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 935708)
Brad had said it would be funny to see a store post for what they hate about customers lol i still think it would be funny to see lol (although im not touching that with a 10ft pole lol)

Personally, I think this is a great idea!

lockrookie 02-15-2015 02:19 AM

I know of a lfs that encourages you to bring your water in for testing. I personally don't agree with it one should buy your own test kits. But from a business point of view they are offering free testing in the hopes your there anyways may as well buy something before I go home..

Myka 02-15-2015 04:26 PM

There are a few reasons I suggest people get a test at the LFS.

1) Most newbies seem to buy crappy test kits to start with because they don't see the value in good test kits even if the LFS tells them so, they still go buy cheap Hagen kits at ValuPetCoSmart. If the LFS tests their sample, and they see how far off their crap kits are, they are more likely to buy good ones.

2) If someone is testing and it doesn't make sense - double check at the LFS. I did this recently.

3) On CanReef, the vast majority are avid hard coral enthusiasts. This does not reflect the average marine hobbyist to walk in through the door of an LFS. There are a lot of tanks out there that don't need to test "the big three" regularly because their tanks don't use it up and they aren't dosing. Occasional testing can help prevent or pinpoint issues though.

4) Someone is asking for advice here on CanReef, and I don't trust their testing. I'd like them to go to the LFS just so I feel like I have numbers to work with. :lol: Poor testing can be worse than no testing at all.

5) Someone said already that some people can't afford to have a reef tank and he feels sorry for them (was that you Brad? Feeling sorry doesn't sound like you). I think this is the case for many people. There is a difference between being cheap and simply not being able to afford it. There are lots of people out there who can't afford to buy their dogs and cats top of the line kibble, and there are enthusiasts out there that think if you can't afford the best kibble (or raw even) that you shouldn't have a pet. There are lots of CanReefers with similar thoughts. I'm not one of them.

Aquattro 02-15-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 935815)
(was that you Brad? Feeling sorry doesn't sound like you).

Yes, me. I have my moments. :) I know people that see wonderful and amazing reefs, and get into the hobby to emulate the tanks that inspired them. They just happen to have a minimum wage job, three kids and a dog eating crap kibble. They mean well, and ask the right questions, but the answers usually involve money of some sort. I do genuinely feel bad for these people. They often are mislead by the Internet masses (mostly newbies themselves) into believing you can build a really nice reef on a really tight budget. I suppose it's possible, but not the usual outcome.
FWIW, if going to the LFS helps them, I don't have a problem with that. It's the guys coming to my house for various reasons, parking their Lexus in my driveway then explaining they don't need to spend money because their friend/neighbour/LFS has what they need.

Myka 02-15-2015 04:48 PM

Brad, you summed up the difference between "cheap" and "can't afford it". CanReef is full of idealists, I used to be one. I'm a decade older and more humble now. I think I had more disposable income a decade ago though. :lol:

WarDog 02-15-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 935817)
It's the guys coming to my house for various reasons, parking their Lexus in my driveway then explaining they don't need to spend money because their friend/neighbour/LFS has what they need.

..and that's why they can have a Lexus. In my limited experience, I've noticed that people who have money are cheap SOB's. Not all, but a good percent. My company does a lot of new homes in British Properties. We're talking $20 million dollar homes with Ferraris in the driveways. Home owners will show up from time to time with a box of Timmies coffee, and actually ask for a loonie per cup. Blows my mind.

Myka 02-15-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 935856)
..and that's why they can have a Lexus. In my limited experience, I've noticed that people who have money are cheap SOB's. Not all, but a good percent. My company does a lot of new homes in British Properties. We're talking $20 million dollar homes with Ferraris in the driveways. Home owners will show up from time to time with a box of Timmies coffee, and actually ask for a loonie per cup. Blows my mind.

True. The richest (monetary) people I know are also some of the cheapest. I should work on this.

jason604 02-15-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 935856)
..My company does a lot of new homes in British Properties. We're talking $20 million dollar homes with Ferraris in the driveways. Home owners will show up from time to time with a box of Timmies coffee, and actually ask for a loonie per cup. Blows my mind.

That my friend is the definition of a true hustler lol. Ur lucky they didn't charge delivery and convienience fees

kien 02-15-2015 10:42 PM

So, what are we talking about now? I skimmed the last few pages and all I got was something about Brad, timmies, 20 million dollar homes, and hustlers ?? Can someone send me Cliff notes on this thread ?

SeaHorse_Fanatic 02-16-2015 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 935893)
So, what are we talking about now? Can someone send me Cliff notes on this thread ?

If you're cheap and don't own your own test kits, you too can one day drive a Lexus and live in a $20,000,000 British Properties mansion.

Sorry, that's all I got.:wink:

Anthony

Aquattro 02-16-2015 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 935911)
If you're cheap and don't own your own test kits, you too can one day drive a Lexus and live in a $20,000,000 British Properties mansion.

If you sell coffee to working class people..

One_Divided 02-16-2015 06:00 AM

I own my own kits, but only test phosphates 1-2 times per year, so therefore, I test it at the lfs.

mseepman 02-16-2015 05:33 PM

I own my own kits and always have...especially since the LFS uses Hagen kits...which means they have no idea what's happening.

Myka 02-16-2015 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mseepman (Post 935997)
I own my own kits and always have...especially since the LFS uses Hagen kits...which means they have no idea what's happening.

I thought he learned better. Oi!

gobytron 02-16-2015 09:53 PM

Interesting.
What is it that got you so worked up about this?

Do you own an LFS?

Also, I remember when I was in the thick of this hobby and probably spending 500 a month at JL aquatics.

I wish I had known I could have just had them do my testing for me then.

Aquattro 02-16-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 936042)
Interesting.
What is it that got you so worked up about this?

I just like to get worked about about something once a month or so :) Honestly, don't much care, I have kits, buy whatever I need and enjoy the hobby. Mostly get sick of full pages of buy/sell threads on New Posts, so thought we could talk about this.
If there is any grounding in my workedupedness, it's people that continually ask for advice then don't take it because the answer requires a couple bucks investment.
Or, my tank has gone to crap, what can I do? Hmm, what are your parameters?
Uh, I dunno, I don't have test kits...just annoys me more than anything.

gobytron 02-17-2015 12:03 AM

I get that.

Though to be fair, with all the trolling you see in the buy and sell here, it can be some of the most entertaining reading on the site...

StirCrazy 02-17-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 935817)
Yes, me. I have my moments. :)

:eek::rofl:


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