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Myka 02-04-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CHEAPREEF (Post 1023927)
Would def watch out running one of these, the LED's wrapped around acrylic have been known to cause stress cracks and eventually fractures. The don't generate a lot of heat but when it's pressed directly onto the surface like that it is focused enough to be a issue.

Interesting...haven't had any troubles with that using different reactors and lights.

DKoKoMan 02-04-2018 11:22 AM

Hmm... is this maybe a one off or a consistent pattern with age. I see many online vendors using the AquaMaxx reactor with the led strips wrapping it. The Pax Bellum is way out of budget for me on an algae reactor. I have been considering one of these algae reactors but value what other have to say.

CHEAPREEF 02-13-2018 02:57 PM

So it's been 2 weeks and no return of the white slime or the buildup in the pipes. I can't be 100% what it was yet but I am leaning towards a build up of VOC's in the water.
I am going to start adding stuff I stopped doing slowly every 4-5 days see if anything triggers a return, other than the AA's and Bacteria I no longer feel the need to dose those as the tank has been perfectly fine without either.

DKoKoMan 02-14-2018 03:02 AM

Well that’s great! I stopped with the NOPOX and the slime faded. Unfortunately with only chaeto my nutrients were climbing out of range. I started dosing straight vinegar as my carbon source at 15ml. I will monitor and see if the slime returns with solely vinegar.

Myka 02-15-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEAPREEF (Post 1023927)
Would def watch out running one of these, the LED's wrapped around acrylic have been known to cause stress cracks and eventually fractures. The don't generate a lot of heat but when it's pressed directly onto the surface like that it is focused enough to be a issue.

I was just thinking...are those cases from people using bare LED strips? I use the "waterproof" ones that have a silicone covering so the silicone is what touches the acrylic, not the LED itself.

Myka 02-15-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEAPREEF (Post 1024285)
So it's been 2 weeks and no return of the white slime or the buildup in the pipes. I can't be 100% what it was yet but I am leaning towards a build up of VOC's in the water.
I am going to start adding stuff I stopped doing slowly every 4-5 days see if anything triggers a return, other than the AA's and Bacteria I no longer feel the need to dose those as the tank has been perfectly fine without either.

VOCs? Volatile Organic Compounds? I think you mean something else?

I still vote that the slime was excess bacteria from liquid carbon dosing. :D

Good luck with resuming dosing.

CHEAPREEF 02-15-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 1024327)
VOCs? Volatile Organic Compounds? I think you mean something else?

I still vote that the slime was excess bacteria from liquid carbon dosing. :D

Good luck with resuming dosing.

No I mean VOC's.

http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forum/i...-menace.86535/

DKoKoMan 02-15-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 1024326)
I was just thinking...are those cases from people using bare LED strips? I use the "waterproof" ones that have a silicone covering so the silicone is what touches the acrylic, not the LED itself.

I have been looking in to this a bunch. Many vendors are still selling the reactor packages with the led lights wrapped around. I知 wondering if this happens over time as the acrylic gets older, constantly being heat up and cooled. I知 not sure, the reactors used most often are the AquaMaxx though.

CHEAPREEF 02-15-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DKoKoMan (Post 1024331)
I have been looking in to this a bunch. Many vendors are still selling the reactor packages with the led lights wrapped around. I知 wondering if this happens over time as the acrylic gets older, constantly being heat up and cooled. I知 not sure, the reactors used most often are the AquaMaxx though.

Yes that is exactly what it is heat/stress over time. And you'll see it on the AquaMaxx, TLF and the like reactors first as they would most likely be using extruded acrylic where the higher end will use Cast. Both will eventually stress crack from the heat/cooling stress.

Most actual Algae reactors coming out now are the center lite versions with a heatsink running LEDS ran inside a center tube. No heat issues as the heatsink removes that issue. I was planning on doing a DIY version of one of these since it would be super easy, but I have no need for any nutrient export. I actually dose nirtates to keep them detectable.

https://reefbuilders.com/2015/11/12/...-chaetomorpha/

DKoKoMan 02-16-2018 09:58 AM

Those setups are so sweet with the internal light tube but so pricey. I have a ball of chaeto in my sump right now but haven’t saw any growth out of it really. How long does chaeto normal take to see noticeable growth with nitrate and phosphates present?

I’m jealous that you need to dose nitrates. I’m hoping with the upgrade in tank that my bioload is reduced a bit that it lowers in the water volume. Otherwise I will have to stick to the chaeto and vinegar dosing.

Myka 02-16-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEAPREEF (Post 1024330)

Ohhhh, you've been using air fresheners or something? Why do you think there are actually VOC's in your tank?

Wait, who's the OP in this thread? I'm confused.

Myka 02-16-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DKoKoMan (Post 1024331)
I have been looking in to this a bunch. Many vendors are still selling the reactor packages with the led lights wrapped around. I知 wondering if this happens over time as the acrylic gets older, constantly being heat up and cooled. I知 not sure, the reactors used most often are the AquaMaxx though.

Well that issue can certainly be worked around. I haven't seen it become an issue though. I'll keep an eye out for it.

CHEAPREEF 02-16-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DKoKoMan (Post 1024357)
Those setups are so sweet with the internal light tube but so pricey. I have a ball of chaeto in my sump right now but haven稚 saw any growth out of it really. How long does chaeto normal take to see noticeable growth with nitrate and phosphates present?

I知 jealous that you need to dose nitrates. I知 hoping with the upgrade in tank that my bioload is reduced a bit that it lowers in the water volume. Otherwise I will have to stick to the chaeto and vinegar dosing.

I'm not sure on the chaeto growth, I had some in my sump when I started and it started falling apart and died on me. I can't seem to grow it at all. I only run a skimmer, real live rock and Brightwell Xport brick in the sump. I don't carbon dose or anything like that. I dose nirtates to keep them detectable and Iron once a week.

CHEAPREEF 02-16-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 1024358)
Ohhhh, you've been using air fresheners or something? Why do you think there are actually VOC's in your tank?

Wait, who's the OP in this thread? I'm confused.

No I have not but my wife likes to use sented candles which also contain VOC's, I had her stop for the last few weeks. You can also get a build up from any kind of spray cleaner etc, lots of different stuff has it if.

And YOu obviously know who the OP is, I was offering my experinces on this since it's the same or very similar. DkoKoMan seemed to welcome my findings, I can stop posting in the thread if it's bothersome NP. ;)

Myka 02-17-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEAPREEF (Post 1024368)
And YOu obviously know who the OP is, I was offering my experinces on this since it's the same or very similar. DkoKoMan seemed to welcome my findings, I can stop posting in the thread if it's bothersome NP. ;)

I realized after I posted that you weren't the OP. I edited that part in. :lol:

DKoKoMan 02-17-2018 10:29 PM

I welcome all feedback :smile: It’s interesting how slime shows up in some tanks and not in others. Update... chaeto is still alive (slow growing as I haven’t noticed it any larger) and dosing 18ml vinegar. The slime has all retreated, the filters in between the baffles are not plugged and nitrates are still a little high. I’m going to continue to see if the slime returns with the sole use of vinegar as my carbon source.

CHEAPREEF 02-18-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DKoKoMan (Post 1024404)
I welcome all feedback :smile: It痴 interesting how slime shows up in some tanks and not in others. Update... chaeto is still alive (slow growing as I haven稚 noticed it any larger) and dosing 18ml vinegar. The slime has all retreated, the filters in between the baffles are not plugged and nitrates are still a little high. I知 going to continue to see if the slime returns with the sole use of vinegar as my carbon source.

Do you think the vinegar is helping with it or the Chaeto?

I was away for the day yesterday and last night checked on my tank. White slime back with a vengeance, I hate this stuff. :/

DKoKoMan 02-19-2018 10:02 PM

Definitely not the chaeto lol. When the slime was around it would just get stuck in the chaeto ball and kill it. The vinegar seems to be working well, it is a lot slower in reduction then the vodka though. Was do No some reading and ethanol is 8 times more of a carbon source then vinegar. My thought is I will stay slow and steady adjusting my vinegar dose each week.

Serpantkeeper 02-20-2018 04:08 AM

Are you still running a NO reactor or just straight vinegar? Think running both would be bennificial?

DKoKoMan 02-20-2018 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Serpantkeeper (Post 1024503)
Are you still running a NO reactor or just straight vinegar? Think running both would be bennificial?

Dosing the vinegar once daily. Also have a chaeto ball in my sump (not seeing anything superficial from it) and running GFO. Will keep this thread updated on a weekly basis for observations and parameters.


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