Stung by a hammer?
I have always handled my euphyllia Bare handed and have never had a side effect of any type, nor have i ever heard of anyone else being stung. is it possible that maybe this person might just be sensitive. or allergic like someone could be to a bee sting? not doubting, just surprised to Hear . i do agree about gloves as precaution. who knows what you might find. i just bought some aqua gloves cause I See so many unknown things on my rocks.
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Thats what makes me cautious. crazy unknown, unseen and potential for sickness. i am active in my tank and have not always been crazy about hand washing... but its true that some stuff can get you. one thing i would like to point out,in regards To the hobby, is test chemicals. that is some bad ass stuff. if you dont wear gloves while handling these you could have serious long term effects. those pretty symbols on the bottle are there by LAW. ever wonder why? wear gloves. that covers all!
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i seem to have high tolerance to stings so i dont wear gloves. puffer fish nip at your hands when cleaning made my finger go numb.scats have venomous spines as i found out after a hit to the arm. and lest but not least.HUMANS CAN CONTRACT DISEASE FROM FISH!! i found out the hard way years ago in Vancouver i worked in a pet store.the doctors couldn't fig out what it was.looked like a cyst on my index finger and slowly crawled up my hand more and more.finally a biopsy revealed fish tank granuola .treatable with tetracycline.apparently common in Florida on workers producing live rock ect. it happens if u have a cut and submerse it in the fish tank.i treated a yellow tang and think he gave it to me.lol.doctors had all their buddys in the room staring and taking pics of my hand.good times:razz:
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I can remember when ever I swap out a tank, I get a stuffy nose and congested from it. a little bit of UFI For everybody's info that u can drink your urine up to 7 times before your body will reject it. it becomes poison then.
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MMMMmmm recycled beer :)
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In the Coral magasine, they mention that to this date there has not been any palytoxin found in zoanthids. So far there is no proof that zoanthids or even what we have in our aquarium that we call paly actualy have the toxine.
I frag my zoa and paly all the time without glove, even have scratches and wounds sometime and I never been sick from a bit of zoa mucus. Wearing eye glasses is important though because they can spit in the eyes and I read that this is not pleasant...although not deadly! Quote:
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I remember reading that and I think it was some sort of brownish palythoas and the dog drank the water the polyps were fragged in, so it was probably a variety of palythoas that contained the toxine and there was probably a large amount of it. Is that true? not sure as a lot of things we read are just made up.
But zoanthids have never been proven to actualy contain the palytoxine. Palythoas maybe yes, but not the 3 varieties of zoanthids (even what we call paly are still zoanthids) that we use in aquarium. Of course if you start eating your coral, you might get very sick from most of them. I never ever read or heard anytyhing about people getting sick from toutching zoanthids with their bare hands and I never felt anything from toutching and fragging them with my bare hands, even with cuts and wounds and scratches on my hands. I even once scratched my finger badly while removing zoanthids from totoka liverock and only after one hour of fragging I realized that I was bleeding from that scratch yet no metallic taste in my mouth, no dizinnes, no nosea etc.. I am not saying it cannot happen but we should not be histerical either. Quote:
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I can add to the Bristle worm photo's.
Found the worm in my bucket of rock while moving the tank to the new place.... Had to wait 20 minutes for a friend to bring me Duct tape (best way to remove the bristles) http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...tank/Oops1.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...tank/Oops1.jpg And the cause of the problem, tank is 18" wide, and it hasn't stretched out yet in this picture. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...k/IMG_2335.jpg |
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Recycled beer? but no more alcohol. Who wants to drink beer without alcohol? Never mind that, who wants to drink their pee? not me!
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Yes well, that's common sense to wash your hands before you put them in your mouth after handling any coral, not just zoanthids. This can still happen if one is not carefull and toutch the gloves he or she used and then put the hands in the mouth.
I am not saying it's not dangerous but it's not very dangerous and very low risk. You will not die from just plainly handling zoanthids or other coral but you might if you eat it or drink the water from fragging, so keep your children AWAY from this when you frag but I will not put gloves. There are some much more dangerous things in our aquarium than zoanthids, like the vibrio bacteria, the fish tuberculose and many other bacterias that could be potentially harmfull, yet those occurences are extremely rare. Quote:
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after got sting serveral times by my long spined urchin, now everytime i always watch where he is before putting my hand in.
Got sting by anemone, long spined urchin, bristles worms. Out of three, anemone was the worst, it last for days. |
Got nailed by a Foxface Rabbitfish recently, that was not fun I must say......................
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Interesting. I toutched my rock flower anemones tentacles many times but never felt anything other than the tentacles are sticking to the skin but no sting and no pain. I guess that rock flower anemones do not sting?
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Bristle worms are the only thing that really sting me , have brushed against all kinds of coral including torches & an extremely sticky carpet with no effect.
The last few times I have been really badly stung by a BW the next day I'm highly nauseous and have a killer migraine. Itchy itchy fingers too :neutral:. |
Well if they sting I am immune to it because I can't feel a thing beside the tentacles sticking to my skin when I pull away. Same result with my duncans as the tentacles often stick to my skin but I don't feel anything remotely painfull.
The people at the LFS when I bought both anemones were handling them out of the water and into the bag with their bare hands, toutching it quite a bit. Did not seem to hurt either of them. Quote:
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I must has some tough skin for the simple reason the only coral that has ever made me feel the sting is the long tent plate I had.
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thanks for posting the link Murray
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heres a story from a customer at the shop.....he is a member here but shall remain anonymous:razz::wink:....said member realized or read or whatever that sodium bicarbonate dissolves quicker when you stir it into hot water....he had the idea to do the same think with his bulk calcium additive ......he said the second the boiling water hit the calcium it literally exploded and sent some of the calcium flakes shooting throughout the room!.....he said the resulting heat generated by the mixture nearly melted through the 5g bucket he was using:surprise:......so lesson learned is.....cold water only for mixing your bulk Ca solutions!
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Oh so true, I have noticed that adding calcium added to cold water causes steam to rise from the pail and the water temp rises quickly.
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Anyone ever accidently got aquarium water in the mouth? My aquarium is small and difficult to syphon from so usually I start it manually. Wasn't paying attention a few times and ended up with a mouthful. Anyways, I'm still alive but was wondering if i'm the only idiot to do such a thing.
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PUTTING WATER FROM YOUR TANK IN YOUR MOUTH IS A VERY BAD IDEA! http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-0...ture/index.php - Brad |
i wouldnt worry about it to much its like anything else realy when it comes down to it, ive handled all my corals and anemonies bare hand and have had nuthing happen, everyone will reacte diffrently just be cautious if you have allergies and have a bottle of benedryll on hand,as for certain worms and fish yes use caution bristle worm stings hurt and i herd lion fish and butterflys and fox faces can pack sum punch aswell as certain box fish and puffers
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I wanted to cut my finger when I got stung by my lionfish. Soaked it in water which was as hot as I can tolerate for 2 hours. My finger is still bulging where I was stung and that was 3 months ago, and still tends to hurt from time to time.
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I don't know much about lion fish, did you brush you hand past the fish or did the fish sting you?
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My fault entirely. That lionfish is very timid, gets excited during feeding time but when it sees me reaching into the tank it avoids the side where I am working. During that time I didn't look into the tank to see where it was before I reached in.
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another close call from palytoxin exposure:neutral:....heed the warnings people!
http://reeftools.com/live/forum/showthread.php?t=1593 |
Wow so glad I read this. Just ordered a bunch of zoas and I probably wouldn't have worn gloves until I saw this thread. Thanks guys for saving my butt once more
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and more palytoxin experiences http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=88064
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I once graced my hand across an Elegance coral...it touched my wrist. At first it felt nothing. Then my wrist started to hurt like it was cut and salt water touched it. So i took my arm out and washed my hands/arms like i normally do. After a short while i noticed this long cut along the wrist. It wasn't like deep enough for blood, but it gave me a scar for at least a year after. I think the scarring finally went away as the skin renew itself.
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Not really an aquarium, but I got hit By a blue bottle in Australia....that was painful...very painful...
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I've also been skewered(right through my finger, ouch) by a long spine urchin while cleaning a tank so WATCH what you're doing if you have one. I didn't realize it was in there and it was hiding under a black over flow against a black background. Thankfully I didn't get one of the poison spines. I am often stung by Euphyllia. An orange hammer once stung the back of my wrist and it was very itchy and painful. It produced welts and then black scare marks after the welts went down. Those marks were there for several months and would frequently get itchy still. |
I had my left hand paralyzed for just over 6 hrs when I handled 3 coral juries still out on which one it was but I can tell you it was excruciatingly painfull. I handled a Zoa, mushroom leather, red and green brain coral I treat all my coral with care because I never wanna go through that pain ever again
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