Well that was an interesting read, although I am still a fan of refugium's, even if it is for the "wrong" reasons. I do enjoy the chaeto, and dragon tounge macros, agree with caulerpa being a pain in the arse with the unvassivness and sexual reproduction via "melting". Something interesting, I had to shut off my fuge in December due to a teeny weeny leak. I thought ny phosphates would go through the roof, so of course I have been watching closely and maintaining my weekly maintenance of 20-40 gallon H2O changes, and surprisingly my phosphates are even lower without the fuge (although i did have a little caulerpa in the fuge) which definetly went sexual and melted a few times before I got in there and trimmed it back....but i am still planning to re-hook the fuge up. I just gotta untie the piano from by butt. So fuge....yes please, so many cool things going on in there. Maybe this time a fuge/frag tank split....hmmmm we will see.:biggrin: