Yeah I had tried that first site and it didn't work for me either, that's why I asked, figured there must be another spot somewhere. Thanks for the other link!

http://www.bubble-magus.com/en/product.asp

try this link for the manufacturer's website in english

So I'm still trying to figure out if the BK will be any better at skimming the the BM.

No doubt they are both good skimmers.

I will happily pay more for better skimming.

Has anyone used both skimmers?

I haven't actually had the chance to inspect the skimmer myself but have you seen a BK, the collection cup lid weighs close to 5 lbs by itself, I really can't see it being of the same quality, either way that was not really my point. I was simply stating that things aren't always what they seem and price always reflects quality. The Bubble Masters had similar reviews and yes the Magus could very well be better but since they are still new to the market you really don't know how the product will perform over time and how the company will stand behind the product if at all. Reputation has to be earned and the Magus as it stands has very little while the King is still King. In the end it's what everyone wants anyways.

Oh and the Toyota and Lexus comparison, way off, unless Royal Exclusive makes the Magus as a cheaper alternative. It's closer to Honda and Hyundai, in which case, like most people, I'll take the Honda.

I've communicated with the guys selling them in the US (nuocean) and they've been very responsive to my enquiries. I haven't yet bought one, but I was impressed by how hard they try. I think the one concern I have would be the current lack of availability on what nuocean has in stock. They seem to be waiting a long time for stock.

Just my 2 cents though.

OK I have read lots of threads about this and I am inclined to get the Bubble King Mini 180. It costs about three times as much however the advantages seem to be better pump as well as local support (both dealer and distributor are local) and less headache/tweaking factor.

However from everything I have read if I were on a tighter budget I would definitely get the Bubble Magus.

I take that back, it's not even close. The aqua-bee pump is comparable to ehiem at best not even close to the red dragon which has a custom housing and stand, titanium shaft, and lifetime bearing warranty. Just look at the airflow specs and power consumption. The Magus is probably comparable to a Euro Reef or Deltec not Bubble King.

Quite honestly, I've seen a BK mini in action, and I'd rather spend my money on beer. I bought a used Euroreef CS8-3 for $300ish and love it. It skims great, and IMO, better than the BK mini.
Of course, the BK might be a better tax write off for a business and/or for really short stands, but I'll use my extra money for frags.

Tony,
These guys I bought my wavebox from in Singapore sell the Bubble Magus. Super fast shipping and there was no duty or taxes.
http://www.fish-street.com/cart/bubble_magus_1

As I understand, if you want the North American voltage pumps you need to buy from NuOcean, ordering from Singapore gets you a 220V pump.