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Salmon King 08-28-2007 07:15 AM

ich
 
Copper is the only remedy that works.The ouicker you use it the better results.A freshwater bath will give your fish instant relief in the short term but copper is the fix.I wish people would quite mentioning garlic because it does not work.They even took it off there label that it treats ich.So many people have lost fish because of treating ich with garlic.

Skimmer Juice 08-28-2007 04:30 PM

Rudy I also had this problem trying to get a cowfish, the only way is to use cupprimine, dont use copper as cowfish are scaleless. Dont need to drop your salinity, jus remove any inverts remove all carbon, turn off skimmer, I believe you use 1cc of cupprimine per 10 gallons, ask dennis at gold;'s he will tell you step by step, I have had to treat my cowfish twice now if you want to call me you can I have had great succes, with my cow, so you can call me at 975-2187

digital-audiophile 08-28-2007 05:11 PM

I would be surprised if people actually "lost" fish because of garlic.

I just shared what has worked for me in the past, like I said everyone has thir own magic elixir when it comes to ich treatment and it is up to each individual reefer to find out what is best for -their- tanks. Is anyone better than the other? Everyone will tell you their method is best. For me it's really tough to say becuase I have yet to read a definitive scientific paper on ich treatment, I just know what has worked for me in the past and stick to it.

dogboy 08-28-2007 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by digital-audiophile (Post 268609)
everyone has thir own magic elixir when it comes to ich treatment and it is up to each individual reefer to find out what is best for -their- tanks.

There probably needs to be a distinction made between treatment for ich and eradicating ich from a tank....

I have been successful in ridding my fish of ich by doing absolutly nothing.... just sort of sat back, thought about what my options for treatment would be and then the ich dissappeared...

now this does not mean my tank is ich free but my fish have been able to fight it off IMO by good water quality, propert feeding and diet, etc....

hawk 08-28-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu (Post 268432)
You'll just get successive generations faster. Increasing temperature won't kill the crypto by itself.

Exactly, it'll also lessen the oxygen content in the tank making it even more difficult for a sick fish

Der_Iron_Chef 08-28-2007 07:24 PM

I think the general idea surrounding garlic is that it can aide overall health, which helps the fish to fight off sickness, parasites, etc.

Kind of like how taking vitamins will promote overall health, but doesn't cure the common cold.

Redrover 08-28-2007 09:13 PM

I have been using garlic and vita-chem at feedings...I agree with Drew that it keeps healthy fish healthy, therefore I believe this to be a big factor in the ablitily to fight off this pest. I will also stick with raising the water temp as it's worked for me.

Ken 08-29-2007 08:16 AM

Hi, Cowfish and porcupinefish, avoid the copper. Regards Ken

Salmon King 08-31-2007 07:36 AM

Garlic
 
As you know garlic was sold as a treatment for parasites at the beginning but is not now.They took that off there label.I told people of garlic 10 years ago before it was sold as a remedy.It was said it was fed to cows and horses to keep ticks and masquitos from biting them that as how somebody ran with the idea as a treatment for parasites for fish in a reef tank.It/s a wise tale.I wish I had sold it and made a million but I wouldnt have felt good misleading people.Maybe its a good food supplement but marine bioligists I have talked to disagree with that even.I dont mean to step on anybodys toes but when people say its a parasite treatment and people believe it and lose fish when the only proven treatment is copper based medications.

Reefer Rob 08-31-2007 03:32 PM

Hypo-salinity is also a "proven" treatment, and much safer than copper. Many public aquariums use it in their acclimatisation procedures.


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