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Johnny Reefer 07-14-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCDP
I never said I was going for 50g . I said somewhere from 50-60 (and still havent decided on anything yet) And again, I never said I am adding any of these tangs to my tank.



I'm just curious what the general consensus is on the hardiest tang.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCDP
What would be the hardiest tang for a home aquarium and why? Any experience?? .. for my next tank I'd like a tang if I can get a big enough setup.

Just seeing which would be the best to add.

Holy crap!:surprise: So what part of "...for my next tank I'd like a tang if I can get a big enough setup?" am I not getting?
You know you've been talking alot lately about getting a 50g cube and how that's all you can fit in your bedroom so don't go biting my head off for mentioning that. Even 60g ...what's the difference?....still too small for a Sailfin, IMO.
Christ, you get up out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?

OCDP 07-14-2006 05:14 PM

oh my goodness........

chill out ???. this thread was a simple question of which tang you find most hardy.

Im not even going to bother replying to posts like yours anymore.

And what part of "for my next tank I'd like a tang if I can get a big enough setup." are you not getting?? Who said I may be going larger than 50-60g? How do you know I am not trying to fiddle with dimensions still? How do you know my plans haven't changed? Me and my dad went over dimensions last night and length was starting to sound more ideal rather than a cube. So, please .. lay off . I wasn't getting angry with you by any means. I think you sir are the one who woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I read my previous post over and I dont think I came off as rude one bit... you just chose to read it that way. Good day.

Edit: WHY are you stuck on the SAILFIN idea?!? My god, get over it. I never said I am adding a sailfin to my tank nor any other tang!!!!!!!

AJ_77 07-14-2006 05:17 PM

Perhaps the question should have been, "what's the hardiest tang that can be housed in a 50-60 gal cube tank?" In that case, a zebrasoma spp. seems to be most adaptable. Buy small, sell large.

And yes Scott, you sound defensive. It's all about communication.

EDIT: I see you're planning for a larger tank now? How about saying that up front. You can't expect people not to jump in when you say you love Sailfin tangs, and we all are thinking you're planning a cube. The responsibility lies with the communicator to make sure his ideas are understood.

Johnny Reefer 07-14-2006 05:26 PM

PM sent.

OCDP 07-14-2006 05:28 PM

Ok.. well, once again, I always end up feeling like the bad guy. Sorry I am not communicating clearly.

I said "I love Sailfin's" Not, "I love sailfins, I think I'll add one of those ..." So, IMO , I was hounded on for no reason.

After 2 years in the hobby I think you all should know that I have a darn good idea of general care requirements for tangs.

This thread was specifically meant to find out (in your experience) What the hardiest tang is. I said "I am thinking of adding one if I can get a big enough setup" .. key word: Thinking.... meaning I am thinking a tang would be nice in my new setup. Doesn't mean I am adding one, and I never said "I am adding a tang to my new setup" .

And yes, I should have specified that I am now looking at a longer tank rather than a cube, as width may be an issue. Sorry for not specifying.

Sorry if I came off defensive in the original post, i didn't mean to come off that way. Just, tangs are too touchy of a subject for some people and it drives me bonkers that they jump right on you when I haven't even said I AM adding a tang. I said I am THINKING of adding a tang, IF I can get a big enough setup.

Once again, my apologies .. this thread took a turn for the worse, all's I wanted to really know here was in your experience what is the hardiest tang.

I will re-edit my original post.

OCDP 07-14-2006 05:33 PM

I'd also appreacite if people wouldn't PM me to hound on me about this thread. Also, please don't PM me saying I have bought an anemone and haven't done the research until after it was purchased. Please read more carefully.. because if you did, you would see that I haven't purchased the anemone yet. And I am doing my reserach and reading PRIOR to purchasing it.

Thanks.

albert_dao 07-14-2006 05:50 PM

The Zebrasoma species are hard to beat for hardiness when it comes to tangs. The scopas is probably the smallest of the ones that you can ACTUALLY GET (the gem and black get about the same size if I'm remembering correctly).

The two sailfin species just happen to be the largest of the Zebrasoma species. Both of them top off at around 40 cm's.

As far as being the MOST hardy and ich resistant though, I'd say, flat out, the Sohal and Mimic tangs trump every other tang out there. I've seen a LOT of tangs, and trust me, these things are going to be the last ones in a tank full of tangs to get ich. However, we're all aware of the potential sizes for both these tangs.

What it all REALLY boils down to, though, is find finding a really healthy individual to start with when you do buy a tang. I added about ten different types of tangs to the store display tank about two months ago and haven't really noticed a difference in hardiness since. None of them contracted ich, none of them skipped eating and none of them randomly wore out.

Just some food for thought.

OCDP 07-14-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ_77
EDIT: I see you're planning for a larger tank now? How about saying that up front. You can't expect people not to jump in when you say you love Sailfin tangs, and we all are thinking you're planning a cube. The responsibility lies with the communicator to make sure his ideas are understood.

AJ, you are right. I did not communicate my best, and I apologize for this. I have been playing with ideas since yesterday (as you must have all seen the tank dimensions thread) I have been playing with length over width, but nothing written in stone yet. I didn't expect to be jumped on because I said "I love sailfins" . I think it is irrational to jump on me because of that statement. However, if I would have said "I love sailfins, perhaps I'll look into one of those" OR something to that effect, I would completely understand. However, all's I said was "I love Sailfins" . I never implied that I will add one. So.. I will do my best from here on in to communicate more clearly with fellow canreefers. My aplogies once again.

Scott

OCDP 07-14-2006 05:53 PM

Thanks for the post Albert. Appreciate it.

Johnny Reefer 07-14-2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCDP
I'd also appreacite if people wouldn't PM me to hound on me about this thread. Also, please don't PM me saying I have bought an anemone and haven't done the research until after it was purchased. Please read more carefully.. because if you did, you would see that I haven't purchased the anemone yet. And I am doing my reserach and reading PRIOR to purchasing it.

Thanks.

Firstly I wasn't hounding you. Just speaking my mind on your daily change of plans and how it is hard to keep with you when you change your mind so much.....particulary when the questions you pose don't include information about those change of plans. That would be good to know to provide an acceptable answer. And I chose to PM you to keep this little spat between you and me.
As for the anemone...Well you talked about it like it was a done deal and that you were getting it, and you mentioned where you were getting it from, and that it'd be dropped off on Monday. Pretty much a verbal contract commitment in my mind.
Anyway, I was only trying to help with my post in your Tang thread, here. I guess we just don't speak the same language.
Once again...good luck.

Edit: I too would like to apologize for any confusion here. Like I said....I guess Scott and I just don't speak the same language. That's not to say either of us are bad folk....we're just not on the same page.

Scott: I'll leave it to others to help you out from now on. That's a promise.

and cheers,


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