Excel is indeed the kill-all dip, and it has been released as per UWC. There will be no stand alone AEFW dip, only the in-tank treatment.

* re-reading my initial post, I should have been clearer that the dip would be a kill-all, not just a stand alone version.

It is my understanding based on the actual quotes from Underwater Creations that the Excel is not the AEFW nuker. In the past week the actual quotes from UWC are:

"Yes, the Expel is just the coral dip. Completely different product the AEFW nuker."

and

"It looks as if a few people ordered multiple bottles of the Expel, probably thinking it is the AEFW killer. If any of you are on here, message me. One bottle will last you a long time"

He also mentions that it will be a while yet before it is released to the public.

The dip is good to go :)

Not sure why he would say it is a completely different product and offer people their money back.

People bought it thinking it was the in-tank AEFW treatment, like multiple 16oz bottles of it. A single 16oz bottle will treat 80 gallons of dipping water, which for a normal person since it has no expiry date, will last years.

Jeff (the owner) is a good guy and didn't want to stick people with a decade worth of coral dip because they jumped the gun. With an active AEFW infestation, that would be entirely understandable.

The dip is also clear, so I'm not sure what it's based from. The AEFW solution seems to be based on wyrmwood, users have said it mixes to a watery brown that you can't see through.

Either way good luck with the product. I have currently had good success dipping with Coral RX and quarantining. I don't have the pest (at least that I know) but it would be nice to have a cure on the back shelf just in case.

Also once this product becomes available maybe the coral cuttings we purchase from fellow hobbyists would be much safer.

J&L has Purge in stock for those that need it. Apparently there are some issues you need to be aware of when using the product:
1.Keep your fingers crossed you got one from the good batch, apparently they have had some quality issues.
2.Keep an eye on your alk, it can shoot up
3.Keep an eye on your ph, it can drop.

If either of these happen and you don't pick it up you could be pulling coral skeletons out of your tank by the handful.

Only use if you know the risks.

Let us know how well it works if you are not afraid to tell all.

I have contemplated using it to control monti nudibranch (yes I have the little white menace) however I am waiting until the product quality improves and we are more aware of the risks. Don't feel like being a guinea pig. My monti's are currently doing just fine with the help of my melanarus wrasse.

The most important part about running purge is to CHECK YOUR ALK.. 2 to 3 times a day as your corals will stop consuming for about 3 weeks. If you are not managing your Alk numbers you will spike Alk and lose the whole tank.

Has anyone used KZ FWS (flat worm stop)Any idea what it is , How it works ?