thanks, i think i will at least give them an hr and then let them play, secondary topic , what do you guys(girls) think about cleaner shrimp , worth getting or is there another shrimp that will do the job just as well?

I have some, and the job I want them to do is look cool. They're quite good at it. My fish don't need cleaning, so the shrimp are decorative only.

ok, on the subject of cleaning , what else is a good cleaner for a sand bed and other detrius other then hermit crabs and snails, i have a 10 gallon tank dont forget

are you using a sand bed, or just putting sand on the bottom? If the latter, a gravel siphon works wonders. If the former, maybe a small star or something.

i have a 3 inch sand bed , ive noticed a fair bit of algae in the middle of the sand bed as well, are there any crabs ( non hermit ) that could deal with this and what size star would work , i dont want it to attack my coral or anything

hermits won't do much for algae under the surface. Maybe reducing nutrients is a better path than trying to remove algae. If you go the star route, a 2 inch sand sifting star might work.

how large will they get , or do they max out at that size?

I've seen them get too big for a 10g. You'd have to trade it in at some point.

is there a star that could remain in my tank , or a crab or something , i want to stay away from the nudibranchs i have heard to many horror stories about them but i want a really good clean up crew

snails will be your primary crew. Get some astrea and some cerith. You shouldn't need more than that. Oh ya, a turkey baster. You're all set. You won't get a bunch of critters to keep things clean for you, you're gonna have to help :razz:
Ina 10g, you're limited, such that you can't really keep conches, brittle stars and other common cleaners. Even urchins will move things around too much in a smaller tank.