Well...... unless your buying and a old alpha they don't come with the red Dragon pumps .......but what do I know lol

Skimmer King - I assume your comment "Its called buy from me this skimmer is the best. IS It? please explain why" Was directed to us since reefwars did not post commercially?

We have had this discussion before and like I tried to explain, we are not salesmen. I'm not and neither are my guys. We built our business on honesty, we treat every client like a personal friend. We don't sell you what you don't need.

But anyway....on to the topic

Your list below is not accurate.

220 gal right
sump Size
bio load
chemicals u use
type of fish u have
corals you have
room for insump
room for external
BUDGET

I think budget should be very first on the list. With being said, lots has changed in the past few years. Most skimmer available to the hobby will do a good job if you buy the right size.

What makes a skimmer "the best you can get for the money" you ask? Simple, the longevity of the pump.

We have sold 232 (Two hundred and thirty two) Bubble Magus skimmers since the inception of our current software (was not able to check prior) and wanna guess how many pumps came back for warranty? 3 pumps!

Pump 1 Curve 5 with a bad impeller
Pump 2 Curve 9 with a bad impeller
Pump 3 E5 with a dead pump

We have also started selling out of warranty pumps. We sold 3 pumps out of the remaining 229 skimmers sold since 2011. Under $100 I may add :-)

I could get into the pump replacement and cost for the high dollar items but I would not want to **** off my suppliers :wink:

Skimmers have come a LLLLOONG way. Skimmer such as Bubble Magus and Octopus have taken over market share.

With that being said, I in no way saying that the high dollar items suck but what I am saying is that we are lucky as hobbiest to have choice these days. You don't need to spend $1000 to get a quality skimmer anymore.

Have a good day Mike

you dont have to get defeinsve I am stating my opinion, I just threw a list of what to find out. budget can be there at the top no one said it wasn't.
People get into this hobby for one reason to prove that they can do it and want to see beauty in their homes. Yes its $$$$$ when you get into this Hobby its going to cost you. Yes Im aware of the $$$ on a skimmer and yes you dont have to pay lots now for a pump to make bubbles. I'm not attacking you. I'm making a opinion of mine about other skimmers that have been in the past like the Euroreef and sedra pumps. If you want to talk PM me I'm not going to push on someone thread. I gave my response and will wait to hear from him.

thanks man you have a great day too

Im not getting defensive, just replying to your statement "Sorry vendors Im speaking my mind and giving my opinion"

I know you're not attacking, we are having a discussion and we (even retailers) are entitled to our opinions.


Ray

Your absolutely right ray. Skimmers have become more affordable. Myself have gone to reef octo and love it. Not that the bk and alpha are not great but it seems more to the tune of paying for the name.

I must have a bad Reef Octo compared to those of you in this thread who say you love yours. LOL I HATE mine! I'll never buy a Reef Octo again.

yes you can, but there are some of the vendors who wont discuss anything or give a reply its good to see replies from others. and plus i love stirring the pot with ya. you a ok dude man. now leave me alone Im on your webpage looking what to buy.:wink: