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globaldesigns 12-09-2011 08:04 PM

I don't like when products don't have good instructions on use. Zeo had alot of guesswork, I now see Prodibio also does. Even their website doesn't outline when to use supplements.

The reason I say this is because I did my Bioptm and BioDigest dose, then that evening when lights went out, dosed Reef Booster and turned off skimmer for overnight.

Well, doing more research after the dose I found people stated NOT to use Reef Booster until 6 weeks after first using BioDigest and Bioptm so you can create the ULNS. Well the box didn't say this, nor did the manufacturers website or .pdf's they have for each product.

I think all is ok, and tank looks good today (still). I had to adjust skimmer when I plugged back in, as it was going crazy and overflowing. Kinda like when you use too much epoxy glue in the tank. Once adjusted skimmer is now running fine, and I will watch over the next couple days. I read it is the acids in the Reef Booster causing this.

So do I NOT dose Reef Booster in the future for the next 6 weeks, or if my tank doesn't develop cyano or anything bad from this initial dose, do I keep going with it?

I should state that I haven't been feeding corals, been letting the natural bioload of fish poop feed them. So my tank probably was starved for nutrients anyways... But again maybe not.

Prodibio experts please, lets hear from you.

Thanks.

Cugio 12-10-2011 03:23 AM

Hopefully this thread will clear up some of your questions?

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...light=prodibio

rastaangel 12-10-2011 03:50 AM

I used to use the full prodibio line of products and had good success with it. I have since stopped and gone to daily vodka dosing with the addition if fauna marin ultra A-min. I have noticed that with daily dosing it doesnt matter how much my bio-load increases my tanks stays constant ULN were as with the prodibio there was some minimal measurable nutrients as the carbon sources were exhausted.
And vodka and animos are way cheaper...

Skimmerking 12-10-2011 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rastaangel (Post 659284)
I used to use the full prodibio line of products and had good success with it. I have since stopped and gone to daily vodka dosing with the addition if fauna marin ultra A-min. I have noticed that with daily dosing it doesnt matter how much my bio-load increases my tanks stays constant ULN were as with the prodibio there was some minimal measurable nutrients as the carbon sources were exhausted.
And vodka and animos are way cheaper...

Corey you should PM me your number and tell me about the vodka if you would

fishytime 12-10-2011 04:18 AM

Prodibio/zeo/fauna marin/vodka/sugar/vitaminC......all the same principle.....different bacterias.........the nice thing about the probibio syastem is the the dosing is every two weeks......so, while it may cost more than vodka/suger/vitiminC the ease and frequency of the dosing schedule makes it appealing......I started Prodibio three weeks ago and it has already started clearing up the cyano problem that has been plaguing me since the re-start after the crash

globaldesigns 12-10-2011 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 659290)
Prodibio/zeo/fauna marin/vodka/sugar/vitaminC......all the same principal.....different bacterias.........the nice thing about the probibio syastem is the the dosing is every two weeks......so, while it may cost more that vodka/suger/vitiminC the easy and frequency of the dosing schedule maks it appealing......I started Prodibio three weks ago and it has already started clearing up the cyano problem that has been plaguing me since the re-start after the crash

I agree Doug... I did the full Zeo and even vodka, but with daily dosing, it was a pain. Summers are every weekend camping with lots of 4 day or longer camps, so when doing these, I had to keep coming back to dose. Was a real pain. That is why I am trying Prodibio, if it works well, the dosing regime is more pratical for me. It will be nice to be not bound to it, and that is worth paying a few bucks for.

rastaangel 12-10-2011 03:29 PM

Both of you are correct BUT what it costs a person to purchase a large pack of bioptim, the carbon source which I paid $60, I have a full 100% self sustaining dosing system.
So at the end of the day you pay around $120 for a large pack of biodigest and bioptim which is somewhere around 6 months worth of carbon source and almost a year of bacertia source, both depending on your system.
I have a 100g total system volume and it costs me $27 to run my system for 5 months. And in the end it cost me less then what it costs for 1 box of optium/digest to set up my system and touch once every 5 months... Once every 5 months is alot less then once a week... sounds like an alot easy method to me:mrgreen:

Myka 12-10-2011 03:55 PM

I haven't found Probidio Biodigest and Bioptim to help with nutrients, algae growth or cyano. I did notice an immediate color increase when I first started dosing it though. Prodibio has not been able to create anywhere near an ULNS for me, but I like what it does for colors, so I continue to use it. I'm going to start limewater + vinegar dosing as soon as I get a pump for it...might add some vodka to the mix as well, but will start with vinegar.

globaldesigns 12-11-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 659393)
I haven't found Probidio Biodigest and Bioptim to help with nutrients, algae growth or cyano. I did notice an immediate color increase when I first started dosing it though. Prodibio has not been able to create anywhere near an ULNS for me, but I like what it does for colors, so I continue to use it. I'm going to start limewater + vinegar dosing as soon as I get a pump for it...might add some vodka to the mix as well, but will start with vinegar.

This is great news to hear, as I don't have any algae or cyano problems, but want to see the color increase. So hopefully I see the same increase in color that you did.

daniella3d 12-11-2011 01:08 PM

My God! 300$ per month for the zeovite system??? I had no idea it was so expensive. The only thing I ever bought from them was sponge power and amino acid and that was enough to color up my coral nicely (I have very low nitrates etc) and that cost me about 75$ and will last about a year and half for my tank.



Quote:

Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 658737)
Hello Everyone,

Since I am seeing good results again in my tank, after a couple years of grief. Coral growth is happening, coral seems happy, and overall tank just looks really good. I have decided to try out the Prodibio system to see if this assists with the coloring up of the corals.

With great help from Kevin @ Red Coral, I have purchased the Bioptim and BioDigest, and started my first dose today.

I found the fact of dosing every 15 days much better than ZEO (Thanks Mike @ Aqua Digital for pointing this out), and the cost is so much cheaper. The BioDigest I bought from Kevin will last 15 months, so that is very cheap overall. Bioptim, I will have to purchase every 3.5 months. I have averaged the monthly cost for these 2 to be about $15 total, so much more economical over the ZEO system of which I was averaging $2-300 per month.

Lets see what happens. Wish me luck!



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