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andestang 02-03-2011 06:25 PM

I guess thats the bonus of me starting fresh, hopefully all pests are gone. Good luck Kien, if you need a hand (only 1 :lol: ) shoot me a PM I'd be glad to assisit.

shrimpchips 02-04-2011 04:41 AM

Kien, just curious, but is 3 - 4 weeks really needed? From my understanding interceptor is supposed to kill them pretty effectively in one 24 hour dose. So two doses a week apart should be enough, no?

Also, your invert tank should be clean if kept isolated from any acros for about 10 days. Hasn't it been suggested that the longest one of the red bugs can survive without a host is 5 - 6 days?

kien 02-04-2011 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 588241)
Kien, just curious, but is 3 - 4 weeks really needed? From my understanding interceptor is supposed to kill them pretty effectively in one 24 hour dose. So two doses a week apart should be enough, no?

Also, your invert tank should be clean if kept isolated from any acros for about 10 days. Hasn't it been suggested that the longest one of the red bugs can survive without a host is 5 - 6 days?

From my readings on the interwebs many people do 3 doses to account for potential eggs hatching? So ya, 1st one to nuke what's currently there, then the second one to catch eggs and I think the third dose is a safety, just in case you missed any :D

Ya, I do recall reading that about the life span of red bugs I think. I'm just really paranoid I guess :)

Leah 02-04-2011 05:55 AM

:wink2: Your Wrasses are GORGEOUS!!! kien When they tick you off enough you can send them out to me.

muck 02-04-2011 06:17 AM

They sure are.. and you best be posting some photos in the POTM thread. :twised:

burrows14 02-04-2011 06:20 AM

I dealt with red bugs about a month ago and found the interceptor treatment to be very easy. I used half a large tab in my 145 gallon total system, dosed it before I went to bed when the lights went out and 12 hours later threw a bag of carbon in my overflow for 2 hours then did a 15% water change after that. I was really stressed about having to do it but in the end found it to be one of the easiest thing I have ever done to my system. I lost my hermits and pods but all snails,brittle stars and fire shrimp survived:) You should only need to dose one and dont be afraid if you dose a little too much. Read Stone's post in this thread I found it to be very informative and took some stress out of this mess.
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ht=interceptor

Cheers
Ray

kien 02-04-2011 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leah (Post 588271)
:wink2: Your Wrasses are GORGEOUS!!! kien When they tick you off enough you can send them out to me.

Way to slip that in there while a guy is bummed out about his fish Leah! Very stealthy, I like it! :lol:

kien 02-05-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 525955)
You should post new videos of both tanks. Just saying =)

Okay here ya go. Something I just slapped together real quick, so nothing fancy.

kien's mixed reef 2011 - Part 1

Sorry about the particulates and micro bubbles. My goby was having one of those days and my skimmer, well, it needs to go into the recycling bin soon.

lastlight 02-05-2011 03:17 PM

Nice man thanks for posting. Love the 4-stripe of course lol.

Your PBT is looking really good...thick too!

fishoholic 02-05-2011 04:12 PM

Looks great :thumb:

mseepman 02-05-2011 04:31 PM

Looking great as usual!

kien 02-12-2011 05:10 AM

kien vs The Red Bugs: Round 1 - FIGHT!
 
Okay, so this evening marked the first treatment of interceptor for The Red Bugs. Here's how it went down..

First, another thank you to my supplier :)

I was able to obtain a few Interceptor tablets ranging from 5.75 mg to 2.3 mg. Fairly small pills. From my research on various sites, including canreef , I was able to determine an appropriate dosage for my system. According to Melev, one large (23mg tablet should treat roughly 380 to 400 gallons). I'm probably at about 320gallons so I'd need roughly 21(ish)mg, give or take. I went ahead and dosed 23mg anyway because I didn't have a scale.

So here we have my pills ready to get crushed into a fine powder.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297490670

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297490697

fine powder!

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297490720

Once I was satisfied with my interceptor powder I dumped it into a container of tank water and started to mix it. It actually mixed fairly well. This is before I actually stirred it.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297490792

After mixing it all I simply dumped it into the return section of my sump. I removed the skimmer cup from my skimmer to allow it to overflow and I took my carbon off line. The next step is to wait 12-24 hours to turn my carbon back on and put my skimmer cup back. After that I will likely do another dose next weekend. The new school of thought seems to be that you only need one treatment since Red bugs don't lay eggs. From what I recall reading they are live bearers so the fear of eggs hatching in your tank seems to be a false concern. I'm going to do another treatment anyways just in case I got the dosage wrong on the first go round :)

So that's about it. Not terribly exciting but hopefully tomorrow's inspection should reveal a lot fewer red bugs, if any at all.

lastlight 02-12-2011 05:19 AM

Tagging along. Man you summed up how to do it in a few lines. I'm tempted to get it on too. So you're doing a total of two doses now? Both 23 mg?

Good luck man. I have just started to notice that the population on my teal acro is indeed growing (as is the coral lol)

kien 02-12-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 590527)
Tagging along. Man you summed up how to do it in a few lines. I'm tempted to get it on too. So you're doing a total of two doses now? Both 23 mg?

Good luck man. I have just started to notice that the population on my teal acro is indeed growing (as is the coral lol)

Ya, it was literally as easy as it looks. Crush pills, mix pills, dump into tank, done.

Ya, I'm going to do another dose next weekend of 23mg. I'm not 100% confident in my dosage :lol:

es355lucille 02-12-2011 05:31 AM

Really nice system kien! Cool video.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 588656)
Okay here ya go. Something I just slapped together real quick, so nothing fancy.

kien's mixed reef 2011 - Part 1

Sorry about the particulates and micro bubbles. My goby was having one of those days and my skimmer, well, it needs to go into the recycling bin soon.


lastlight 02-12-2011 05:38 AM

So are you seeing like... a storm of dead pods floating around or what?

fishytime 02-12-2011 05:48 AM

Good luck with the treatment brochacho.....hearing someone has red bugs sure makes you look a little closer at your own tank!....

kien 02-12-2011 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 590546)
So are you seeing like... a storm of dead pods floating around or what?

Probably :) I can't tell, lights are out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by es355lucille (Post 590536)
Really nice system kien! Cool video.

Thanks!

Delphinus 02-12-2011 06:05 AM

Did you catch all the acro crabs first? Where are they hoteling it for the time being?

kien 02-12-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 590555)
Did you catch all the acro crabs first? Where are they hoteling it for the time being?

It took me all week but ya, I think I got them all :lol: They are enjoying a vacation in the basement. Although without any acros in there I doubt it'll feel like a vacation.

shrimpchips 02-12-2011 06:12 AM

Good luck with the treatment. It looks so easy, which is great for future reference.

muck 02-12-2011 02:12 PM

Yes.. it is surprisingly easy.
Hardest part is sourcing the Interceptor if you don't have a dog/vet already.

When I did it years back I lost some pod population and that was about it. Its surprising how fast the pods rebound though.

Aquattro 02-12-2011 02:15 PM

I lost all shrimp and acro crabs as well.

kien 02-12-2011 07:11 PM

Well, the lights are on now and I can not find a single red bug. Even on the most infected acro, not a trace. I did find a couple of hermit crabs on the sand bed that I apparently didn't catch for the sanctuary, oops!

:cheer2: kien: 1 - Red Bugs: 0 :cheer2:

Casualties of war..

*** WARNING: Some of the images you are about to see may not be suitable for young children. Viewer discretion is advised ***

this guy looks very much alive, but he is dead. It is almost as if he just froze in his tracks and kicked it. There are others like him.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297542031

This guy just fell off a rock and died.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1297542093

lastlight 02-12-2011 07:21 PM

Nice work boss! So what are your plans for a waterchange now? That's the big reason I haven't done this now...I really don't wanna burn through half a pail for a big one. I'm not even really setup to do that.

And my system is about 110 gallons total. How many mg would I need?

kien 02-12-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 590665)
Nice work boss! So what are your plans for a waterchange now? That's the big reason I haven't done this now...I really don't wanna burn through half a pail for a big one. I'm not even really setup to do that.

And my system is about 110 gallons total. How many mg would I need?

I just plan on doing my regular weekly 10% water change tomorrow. I will do another interceptor blast next saturday and then maybe up my water change to 25% the following sunday maybe. I'll observe to see how everyone reacts to the treatment during the course of the week. So far no one else is phased at all. I suspect if I slap on some carbon it'll take out most of the meds anyway.

kien 02-12-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 590665)
And my system is about 110 gallons total. How many mg would I need?

I would say, aprox, 1/3 of a 23mg pill :)

lastlight 02-12-2011 09:17 PM

I don't have a fancy pestle. Might try and SLAPCHOP it up haha.

Aquattro 02-12-2011 09:42 PM

Also, this stuff is photosensitive, so the lights will help burn it off. Carbon can take the rest and a regular water change is all you need.

kien 02-20-2011 11:45 PM

Well, it has been about a week now and still no signs of red bugs. I've been looking for them pretty much every single day for the past week. None, nada, zilch! I was going to do another Interceptor blast this weekend but I think I'm going to forgo that treatment. If they reappear then I'll do another treatment but as it stands, I'm going to call it a success!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/...6b466db3_b.jpg

Lance 02-21-2011 12:02 AM

:thumb::thumb::thumb:

freezetyle 02-21-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 592761)

Fantastic photo Kien! all of the photos from members tanks has convinced me a blenny must be my next fish purchase

lastlight 02-21-2011 03:14 AM

Awesome news man. Are the crabs back in?

fishoholic 02-21-2011 03:45 AM

:cheer2: Go Kien, you tell those bugs who's boss!

kien 02-21-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freezetyle (Post 592803)
Fantastic photo Kien! all of the photos from members tanks has convinced me a blenny must be my next fish purchase

Thanks! Those little blennies have so much personality :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 592816)
Awesome news man. Are the crabs back in?

Not quite yet, probably sometime this week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 592827)
:cheer2: Go Kien, you tell those bugs who's boss!

Thanks! And, in celebration of the eradication of the Red Bugs I have put together a new video :)

kien's Reef - Part 2

kien's Reef - Part 1

Lance 02-21-2011 04:40 PM

Great video Kien. Corals look outstanding!

lorenz0 02-21-2011 06:08 PM

that blenny shot is awesome

andestang 02-21-2011 06:22 PM

Glad everything turned out Ok Kien. Great video !

cuz 02-21-2011 06:37 PM

Nice video!!!

fishytime 02-21-2011 07:49 PM

Congrats on the victory over the "Red Buggers" man......
Saweet vid too.....three things really jumped out at me...
1) Im soooo envious of your yellow bird......need to find me some*nudge, nudge, wink wink, say no more*
2) those clams are beauts and look killer grouped together like that
3) and the acans are just......*drool*


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