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gregzz4 09-06-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 743353)
Just can't help yourself, can you? :razz: I'm serious, leave it alone. I bought my Ca kit on Boxing day. I did a test the next day and the second one the other night just cause you got me curious. It's fine. RBS (or Reef Crystals) has enough in it that regular 30% water changes will top everything off. you don't have the bioload yet to worry about consumption. So test the new bucket or box, fine, you bought a kit, you want to use it, I get that. But if the salt is fine out of the box (assuming you tested it right), then it's fine. Leave it. Don't test, don't add any stoopid additives. Leave it alone.

I agree with everything you've said

You said "Just can't help yourself, can you ?"

It's not a matter of wanting to use the kit just 'cause I have it
I don't want to test anymore. I am officially tired of it :smile:
I think you took what I said a bit wrong
I will only test my tank once in awhile, just to see what is going on and I will test my new bucket once, just to see what I am getting

Maybe this is what you were meaning, 'cause I do have to see what is going on before I ignore it ...

I will test the new kind of salt one time, test my DT to see how it is affecting my params, and then ignore it :wink:

Aquattro 09-06-2012 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 743366)
I think you took what I said a bit wrong

nah, just buggin' ya :) If you want to test, fine. Just don't touch anything after. It's going to take a few water changes to balance out.

gregzz4 09-06-2012 05:41 AM

And, for the record, I haven't been dosing
I don't like to play with #s

I only dosed Mg for a bit to try to kill some algae, and that went sideways
I have dosed Alk only twice since May as it was below 7

I haven't been dosing to play with #s and will not be dosing anytime soon

Aquattro 09-06-2012 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 743369)
And, for the record, I haven't been dosing
I don't like to play with #s

I only dosed Mg for a bit to try to kill some algae, and that went sideways
I have dosed Alk only twice since May as it was below 7

I haven't been dosing to play with #s and will not be dosing anytime soon

Oh, right. That's Shelley. You're the sideways bottle tester. Got it -lol

But all this is applicable to both of you, and anyone else overwhelmed with all the math and the measuring and stuff. Just back it up a bit and relax!!

gregzz4 09-06-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 743371)
Oh, right. That's Shelley. You're the sideways bottle tester. Got it -lol

OMG, I think I just peed a bit :mrgreen:

And another 'for the record' ...
I used to test with the bottles slanted, but I always drink with the bottle facing the stars :drinking:

Skimmerking 09-06-2012 02:11 PM

I used Instant Ocena since 2002 and this year I bought 3 pails of Reef Cystals and its nice not much dosing going on for me and i have a RSM 250 lps and SPS and i barely test. i have a test kit from 2009 its in the box still.
I dont test for PH if its 7.8 or 7.9 then so be it. I drip kalk from my Barr Aquatics Stirrer its always going at a drip rate of 1 drip evey 4-6 seconds that is how much i evaporate. NOT MUCH. however i try to do 15 gallons every week or 10 gal. if I dont i dont sweat it.

Alk i test maybe 1x every 2 months cal ya whatever.:mrgreen:

Enigma 09-06-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skimmer King (Post 743130)
I use a KAlk reactor for keeping my levels in check however, it wont bring up MAgnesium only CAL and ALK, and then you only have to so MAG top up and if you are doing water changes consistently then your mag should be ok.

Once I get everything fixed, and see how the system responds through normal water changes, I may go with a kalk reactor. I have been researching them a bit. But, since I messed things up so badly as a result of having no idea as to what my calcium really was, I'm clueless as to how the levels will behave under "normal" conditions.

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Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 743334)
So Shelley ..........

Did we ever help/answer your original question ? :lol:

Heck no! I just figured out 100% for sure that I really, legitimately, have a calcium problem. :lol:

Enigma 09-06-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FragIt Dan (Post 743310)
Hah, I bet it's just pure bicarbonate (baking soda) with no carbonate. This would pH balance it a bit lower and prevent the Ca from precipitating out. I am curious if, when you add it, do you get the typical milky response in the water as when you add the normal Alk supplement? My theory is that you don't. I am guessing you just bought the same as Arm and Hammer from a grocery store, but that's just a guess. Incidentally, that is what I dose for Alk, with a bit of Carbonate to pH balance it a bit the other way.
Dan

I don't know what it is.

http://www.aquavitro.com/products/eightfour.html

It appears very vague. A "balanced blend of bicarbonate and carbonate salts."

I haven't used it yet, so I have no idea how it will behave. I'm hoping I don't need it.

If I just paid $11 for baking soda imma gonna be annoyed.


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