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Slyguy00
08-08-2013, 11:54 PM
Just wondering if anybody has any input on this brand. I have been using instant ocean until now, but i wanted to try this stuff. Pros Cons?

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 01:19 AM
Pros, nice looking bucket.

Cons, way too expensive and Ca is somewhere over 500ppm. What's wrong with the IO?

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 01:27 AM
I wouldnt say anything is wrong with it as i personally have had no problems. I have read mixed reviews with it though. The fish store had recommended it and it instead of buying additives and seemed like it was good so i figured i would give it a try. It was about 4$ more than instant ocean. I paid 30$ for enough to do 50 gallons

apexifd
08-09-2013, 01:38 AM
I can do a 70% water change in my 210 with $30 IO

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 02:02 AM
Not sure where you're buying salt, but the fluval here is almost double IO. And using IO, I add 25g of Ca to my 50g new water, which costs me about $18 for a year and a half of Ca.
Honestly, if IO is working, leave it alone. The fish store is pushing fluval due to pressure from the sales rep. And probably higher profits.

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 02:07 AM
Ok thanks alot for the input. I have noticed alot more fluval products at the lfs. Makes sense. Thanks guys

Karsten
08-09-2013, 02:20 AM
If you want an amazing salt with great repeatable parameters try salinity

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 02:23 AM
If you want an amazing salt with great repeatable parameters try salinity

I tried it once, used the rest of the bucket to melt the ice on my stairs. Worst salt I've ever tried :) Although it did great on the stairs!!

Karsten
08-09-2013, 02:38 AM
I tried it once, used the rest of the bucket to melt the ice on my stairs. Worst salt I've ever tried :) Although it did great on the stairs!!

What was bad about it?

I think it is the best salt out there hands down. When you look at how salt is made salinity is bucket by bucket comparable

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 02:39 AM
haha that sounds like a controversial salt:mrgreen:

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 02:44 AM
What was bad about it?

I think it is the best salt out there hands down. When you look at how salt is made salinity is bucket by bucket comparable

I found it didn't mix well, staying milky for days. Lots of complaints at the LFS about it too. Left residue in my bin, and adding it to the tank annoyed all my corals.
I posted about it at the time, and a couple people were like you, thought it was great, so either you're all crazy or the salt is inconsistent. I'm guessing the latter. Either way, it was more money, and I saw no benefit to using it. If I'm going to spend more money on salt, I'd use Reefers Best.

Karsten
08-09-2013, 02:54 AM
haha that sounds like a controversial salt:mrgreen:

I have never heard anyone hating one it ever until now. But I would not trust the guy that would choose io over salinity

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 02:59 AM
But I would not trust the guy that would choose io over salinity

Look up our last salt use poll, lots of us untrustworthy people there -lol

Karsten
08-09-2013, 03:09 AM
Look up our last salt use poll, lots of us untrustworthy people there -lol

How many have tried more than the cheapest salt? Io is great when paired with dosing.

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 03:14 AM
How many have tried more than the cheapest salt? Io is great when paired with dosing.

I used Reefers Best for 2 years, then moved to IO with 25g Ca, find the same results with both. Over the last 15 years, I've tried most, and always go back to IO.

nrosdal
08-09-2013, 05:13 AM
Had big issues with dirt in the bottom of my mixing container with the fluval. 2 buckets in a row there were brown chunks floating and murky water when i cleaned bin out after.

Might just go back to IO or try D and D next.

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 05:32 AM
Had big issues with dirt in the bottom of my mixing container with the fluval. 2 buckets in a row there were brown chunks floating and murky water when i cleaned bin out after.

Might just go back to IO or try D and D next.

Thanks I appreciate the input. Thats pretty odd though. I didnt see any of sort of brown particles in my mixing container. But I will certainly will be keeping an eye out.

mseepman
08-09-2013, 05:39 AM
Had a bad problem with the residue from the Fluval salt. Plus floaties looked like GFO floating on top of water. Not sure if it was a bad batch but my storage tank turned black. So much so that Hagen is looking into it for me. IO is filthy but this fluval batch made it look clean.

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 05:46 AM
Had a bad problem with the residue from the Fluval salt. Plus floaties looked like GFO floating on top of water. Not sure if it was a bad batch but my storage tank turned black. So much so that Hagen is looking into it for me. IO is filthy but this fluval batch made it look clean.

Well so far nobody has anything good to say about the fluval so really I have no need to use it. I will continue to monitor the bag I have and after that will look into other salts. Why do you say IO is filthy? What are the majority of people using then?

mrhasan
08-09-2013, 06:05 AM
Salinity is a very controversial salt. It works great for some (like in my case) while it worked like the worst possible salt (like in Brad's case). I myself is going to move to H2Ocean (seems like the most stable salt with a nice price being a high end salt) since its parameters are much more stable from buckets to buckets unlike Salinity which has a tremendous deviation between buckets (infact, I exchanged my 2nd bucket for a new one at LFS since the mg was way too low - funny!). IO is possibly the most appreciated salt in this hobby since one way or the other, you will have to dose the tank eventually. I just don't like to dose freshly mixed salt so don't use it. And since I usually get flamed for using "less expensive" products (with "you get what you pay for" motto), I try to give the best salt to my tank - the ONLY important thing for this hobby ;)

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 06:08 AM
Awesome thanks Mrhasan!

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 06:09 AM
What are the majority of people using then?

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89864

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 06:12 AM
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1811210

Slyguy00
08-09-2013, 07:01 AM
Thats exactly what I was looking for! very informative, thanks!:biggrin:

Simons
08-09-2013, 06:45 PM
I just ran out of IO and dropped $ for a large bucket of Salinity. Makes me wonder after some of the comments I have read here.

Aquattro
08-09-2013, 08:06 PM
I just ran out of IO and dropped $ for a large bucket of Salinity. Makes me wonder after some of the comments I have read here.

Honestly, give it a shot. Enough people report good results, so maybe my LFS got a bad truck load. It can happen. Use half the bucket, come back and report your thoughts on it.