DC pump mods for/with profilux

[The Codfather]

Well, after a brief discussion about this with Steve this morning, we figured it was time for a bit more DIY.
I will show first of all the mods done to the wp40, followed by the waveline pump(or in this case the attempt, but im pretty sure its all figured out already).
I am using a P3 for control, with the base of a EVG card.
With this, I have eliminated the need for the wp40 control and have complete control over the pumps with the profilux.
Hoping to do the same with the waveline DC pumps.
Please, keep the thread clean, I don't need it closed. Its here to be a help for everyone, I could also do this mod for the Apex as well.
Ill post it here at a later date.

[The Codfather]

For those that have been following the wp40 thread, this is not anything new.
Just a re-post. But there are a lot of similarities between the two, so thought I would include it.
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http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0677_zps581c2108.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0677_zps581c2108.jpg.html)
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[The Codfather]

Here is the waveline controller.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zpsa4f931fd.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zpsa4f931fd.jpg.html)
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps0c8dca33.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps0c8dca33.jpg.html)
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps2c1d8c22.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps2c1d8c22.jpg.html)
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps69b79ba8.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps69b79ba8.jpg.html)

[The Codfather]

Just looking at it, Id say they are very close to comparison.
I have the WP40 completed and running, so a few things need to be figured out.
More to come. Again, please lets keep the thread a clean one.
Thanks for looking,
Bob

[The Codfather]

Consider this board cut in half.
The right hand side-110v
The left hand side-low voltage.
Right hand side.-Power comes in, splits to feed both AC/DC adapters.
Upper left-to profilux
Lower left-1-10v signals(or in the case of wp40 1-5v)

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0672_zpscdb64b95.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0672_zpscdb64b95.jpg.html)

[The Codfather]

Here is a quick reference for the wiring.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/1c4d5548-3b1f-4887-a140-b971d94ddd95_zps953ad83a.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/1c4d5548-3b1f-4887-a140-b971d94ddd95_zps953ad83a.jpg.html)

You can read it directly from the board.

[The Codfather]

I just placed everything in a PVC box to keep it clean and neat.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0680_zps46e684ab.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0680_zps46e684ab.jpg.html)

So what you see here is the completed box.
The four connections that you see on the sides are:
1-110v power coming in.
2+3-110v power out-to AC/DC adapter
4-cable to profilux

The top of the box has the two plugs from the AC/DC adapters, and the three prong that attaches to the pumps. The harness is just inside the casing.

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[The Codfather]

Hooked up and mounted to under side of tank. I chose to run the two adapters externally because of the heat generated by them.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0685_zpsdcda2b52.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0685_zpsdcda2b52.jpg.html)

[The Codfather]

Here is a few screen shots, if your familiar with the profilux, this was actually the easiest set up.
Set up 1-5 volt signal in 1-10v interface
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0690_zps1b556d94.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0690_zps1b556d94.jpg.html)

In current pumps, assign pump numbers and program.
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0687_zps77a04d92.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0687_zps77a04d92.jpg.html)
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/IMG_0688_zps568abc35.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/IMG_0688_zps568abc35.jpg.html)

[The Codfather]

Now that everyone is caught up, let's get started on the waveline.

With the controller open we can again identify the wires.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps2c1d8c22.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps2c1d8c22.jpg.html)

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps69b79ba8.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps69b79ba8.jpg.html)

Again, two wires coming in off the AC/DC adapter, a positive and a negative.
Labeled as M+ and M- on the board.
Also three wires going to the pump,
Labeled 24+, 24-, and VA.

[The Codfather]

We need to identify what the pin arrangement is in the plug to the pump.

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/codfather_2009/image_zps1001b790.jpg (http://s617.photobucket.com/user/codfather_2009/media/image_zps1001b790.jpg.html)

[The Grizz]

Very interesting Bob, I have a question though...did you cut the wires away from the original controler or are they still attach?

[The Codfather]

Very interesting Bob, I have a question though...did you cut the wires away from the original controler or are they still attach?

On the wp40's, I just cut them away, as I'll never need them,and they're cheap.
I had ordered parts for the waveline harnesses about 10 days ago, so I expect things to arrive this week.
I actually was thinking of starting this next week, but after talking with Steve looks like we're starting it sooner.
I will have a separate harness, so on this project, no the controller will just be set aside.

[sphelps]

Great work Bob, this looks awesome. I guess a guy really just needs the profilux EVG card? If I didn't want to salvage the original controller I could use the mating connector from that to prevent the need to cut the pump wire.

Any idea what the signal voltage is? The WP40 was 0-5V, is it the same for waveline?

What about soft start, can we program this with profilux, I've never tried that myself.

[The Codfather]

Great work Bob, this looks awesome. I guess a guy really just needs the profilux EVG card? If I didn't want to salvage the original controller I could use the mating connector from that to prevent the need to cut the pump wire.

Any idea what the signal voltage is? The WP40 was 0-5V, is it the same for waveline?

What about soft start, can we program this with profilux, I've never tried that myself.

What's stopping me from just hooking it to the wp40 set up?
All I'd have to do is undo the union off of one and connect the pump.
Can you see a potential for trouble here?
Now the only thing is I may have to confirm the three pin configuration, but in theory(as bad as it may be....), could this work?
I may have to drag out my multimetre, but I'm thinking the signal is either 1-5 or 1-10? I'm safe at five, any other thoughts without getting too technical?
I have new three pin connectors coming, should be here this week, don't be chopping if need be. It may be this simple....
but somehow I'm doubting it.......

[The Codfather]

Ok, I have control on the waveline.
I'll post a bit more when I get a few more things checked.

[The Codfather]

Waiting for some parts to come in, but I figure that I can make a harness for about $15 dollars, this doesnt include the EVG card that will be needed for a profilux. Did I mention this will also work with an Apex controller?

[theokie]

Many thanks for posting this, definitely following along, as I have a waveline arriving next week

[The Codfather]

Many thanks for posting this, definitely following along, as I have a waveline arriving next week

Ill have everything needed to make a harness here this week, lmk if you need a hand.