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ckmullin

02-17-2013, 02:49 AM

On another forum I had created this topic which was of help. I'll post this topic here so it might help the SW folk.
might be a good sticky on this forum too! (hint hint) :)

Updated: Started list of 'Death Tank' products. Know of anymore? Drop me a line so I can add it.

I've started this topic in hopes that a neat and organized list be compiled of aquarium safe silicone. Such info is spread all over the internet in many different forums and posts.

When adding your own listing, please include the following:

1. The product name in text form
2, A picture of the tube that shows the name of the product
3. A picture of the product's use area which states 'safe for aquarium use' or of similar
4. A picture of the product's upc

I've mainly asked for pictures as it is more quickly referenced than a text list of names and numbers. However I also asked the products name in text form so that specific brand can still be found with a search.

If you have this information and don't want to post yourself, pm me with pictures and I'll add everything in this one post with credit shown as to who added what products.

Order in times of posted or pm'd with info.
( special note: please take under consideration using a product as a sealant / product as an adhesive and choose the best for your purpose, a tank repair or a full new tank build...a kind reminder by jcdg)
( special note: please avoid anything that says mold resistant or similar)

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Products suitable for aquarium use

1. GE 100% Silicon 1 for Windows and Doors (kindly added by jeremoose and Sprucegruve)
http://www.caulkyourhome.com/ge-silicone-I-window-and-door.php

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lxzg34.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/6iz2br.jpg

important tip on GE Silicon 1 by jcgd
(While GE1 works just fine and is safe, I would personally not use it for an adhesive for assembling aquariums.
Any other use, go for it, but be clear that is is a SEALANT and not an adhesive.
For building aquariums I recommend an adhesive type silicone such as Momentive RVT-108. If you want black try RVT-103.)

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2. WeatherShield Clear Silicone Sealant (kindly added by jamesbarr)
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Paint-Décor/Maintenance/Caulk-Coatings-Seals/Caulking/Silicone/300mL-Clear-Silicone-Sealant/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I2031205?Ntt=weathershield+silicone caulking&Num=0

http://i40.tinypic.com/rbyu5t.jpg

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3. LePage Extreme Repair Adhesive (All Temperature) (kindly added by jeanie 1978 and Sprucegruve)
http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=132
( tip: it's been noted that this is on the expensive side...the craft store Micheal's has 40%-50% off coupons every week in their flyer...if they sell this product you've saved a bundle!)

http://i43.tinypic.com/zlvwn7.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/2exnfjm.jpg

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4. Momentive RVT-108 (clear) (kindly added by jcgd)
http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/rtv-silicones/adhesives-sealants/rtv108/
Alberta distributor: http://www.mgchemicals.com/distributors/canada/ab/

http://i43.tinypic.com/t9wiee.jpg

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5. Momentive RVT-103 (black) (kindly added by jcgd)
http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/rtv-silicones/adhesives-sealants/rtv103/ (http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/103.html)
Alberta distributor: http://www.mgchemicals.com/distributors/canada/ab/

http://i40.tinypic.com/sebp1t.jpg

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6. Dap Household/Aquarium Adhesive Sealant (clear) (added by myself)
http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=67&SubcatID=27

http://i41.tinypic.com/2n9j4eu.jpg

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7. Rade Silicone Adhesive (kindly added by cainechow)
Where to Buy: Calgary Fasteners less than $8.00
Data Sheet: http://www.siliconeforbuilding.com/pdf/speciality/Data_Sheet_SCS1200_Construction.pdf

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31vJ12wGb3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

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Products not suitable for aquarium use
aka 'Tank of Death' !

1. GE 100% Silicon II for Windows and Doors
http://www.caulkyourhome.com/ge-silicone-II-window-and-door.php
This is not recommened as it has a mold free additive which is deadly in an aquatic environment.

http://i47.tinypic.com/1z70ow5.png

http://i49.tinypic.com/2uz5iq8.jpg

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2. to be added

FitoPharmer

02-17-2013, 06:20 PM

Products suitable for aquarium use

1. GE 100% Silicon 1 for Windows and Doors (kindly added by jeremoose and Sprucegruve)
http://www.caulkyourhome.com/ge-silicone-I-window-and-door.php

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lxzg34.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/6iz2br.jpg

important tip on GE Silicon 1 by jcgd
(While GE1 works just fine and is safe, I would personally not use it for an adhesive for assembling aquariums.
Any other use, go for it, but be clear that is is a SEALANT and not an adhesive.
For building aquariums I recommend an adhesive type silicone such as Momentive RVT-108. If you want black try RVT-103.)

I am 90% sure this is what killed my last tank.

Reef Puffer

02-17-2013, 06:49 PM

And all tho I wouldnt use it again, the ge II window and door sealant was used to build my sump and has been running safely so for about 2 years. Also used on my 30 gallon hex that currently houses breeder clowns. Also for about a year now with zero ill efects. I now use scs1200, mainly because im building larger tanks now and the ge2 just cant hold up.

FitoPharmer

02-17-2013, 06:55 PM

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=88439&highlight=window+door
I should add my tank did not crash. I did however waste 6 months of time and money since the tank severely failed to thrive.

ckmullin

02-17-2013, 09:48 PM

Aquattro

02-17-2013, 09:53 PM

ckmullin

02-17-2013, 10:04 PM

It's believed that GE I had it's formula changed recently and has been blamed for several problems. I recall someone contacted GE and confirmed this.

I'll phone them Tuesday. :wink:

Aquattro

02-17-2013, 11:19 PM

Let us know!

lockrookie

02-17-2013, 11:48 PM

+1 brad I remember that thread.

I just use the home hardware brand it seems to work well. Well if the front pane of the 180 pops off ill let ya all know lol

FitoPharmer

02-18-2013, 01:45 AM

FitoPharmer, that silicon in question is a tried and true product which has been used widely by hobbyists. I've never heard on any forum or from any contact that GE I silicone causing any problems for anyone. Why it's #1 on the list, safe to use and easy to find for purchase.

I thought the exact same thing when I purchased it. I had used it before several times with great success. But I can say the thread I initially linked to was posted for a reason. I remember seeing some threads on RC about this as well. I do not know if it was a single bad batch or product formulation change.

There are several types that are easy to get and say specifically food and or aquariums safe on the label. For the hassle of possibly doing it wrong compared to the slight cost increase of doing it right in the first place, why risk it? It reminds me of people suggesting buying calcium chloride driveway deicer for dosing.

ashr

02-18-2013, 10:11 PM

*sticky*

ckmullin

02-20-2013, 05:09 PM

Let us know!

A bit late as it's Wednesday however did make that call.

to quote "The Silicone I Windows and Doors formulation has not changed and is the same as in the past" also to quote "...other products do carry the mold inhibitor but this product does not."

So, from the makers mouth nothing has changed.

Anyone who wished to contact can do so via:
http://www.caulkyourhome.com/contact-us.php
1-866-275-4372

MSDS: http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=13039015

Lampshade

02-20-2013, 05:25 PM

Not quite silicon, but saved my butt more than once, Orca Reef Glue.

Orca Glue @ JL (http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/mc-oglue2/Orca+Reef+Glue+Underwater+Glue+(450+Gram).html)

sorry for not having the full links of info/pictures, i don't have any in my house right now.

daplatapus

02-21-2013, 12:47 AM

This is what I've always used and never had any issues. I believe this is what lockrookie was referring to earlier as well
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x353/daplatapus/IMAG0081.jpg

The Grizz

02-21-2013, 01:04 AM

Personally from now on regardless I will only be using GE SCS1200 period. I have used a couple other brands in the past but only those that state aquarium safe on it.

intarsiabox

02-21-2013, 02:38 AM

A bit late as it's Wednesday however did make that call.

to quote "The Silicone I Windows and Doors formulation has not changed and is the same as in the past" also to quote "...other products do carry the mold inhibitor but this product does not."

So, from the makers mouth nothing has changed.

Anyone who wished to contact can do so via:
http://www.caulkyourhome.com/contact-us.php
1-866-275-4372

MSDS: http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=13039015

This has come up before and I contacted GE directly (nobody know more about a product than the manufacturer) as did others and all were told that this silicone is not aquarium safe. The product label itself states "NOT FOR: Surfaces that will exceed 400 degrees, food contact surfaces, aquariums." Whether this is just to cover their tails or not I can't say as I have used it in the past as well with no issues. But when the same company makes SCS1200 which is aquarium safe one has to wonder why the GE I brand says it's not.

dustinc

09-05-2016, 04:42 PM

I bought a tube of the GE Silicone 1* as listed on the first post, but I believe it is unfit for aquariums as it says contains petroleum distillates in very fine print on the back, and also says not for use below the waterline in aquariums.