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2bafish
01-28-2013, 07:41 PM
Hey I am setting up a sump but don't know which return pump to get. I was going to get the eheim 1262 but the person helping me set up the sump says it doesn't have enough flow/head pressure. He is thinking about a lagoon pump. He also mentioned mag drive pumps are very loud. I heard mixed reviews about those pumps. I like his choice of pump because it is super quit but it comes with high price tag. About $325. Wondering if there is another quiet pump on the market.
Any input on this would be very appreciated.

The Grizz
01-28-2013, 07:58 PM
What size of tank are you putting the sump on? If you can get your hands on a Wave-line DC1000 they are almost dead silent and worth every penny, I believe but don't quote me you can get them for around $280.00

2bafish
01-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Tank is about 180 gallon.

Madmak
01-28-2013, 08:23 PM
I use a mag drive 12 as a return in a 200G and don't find it noisy at all. I only hear it if I turn half my other equipment off.

The Grizz
01-28-2013, 08:23 PM
You for sure want something close to the 2000 gph mark then.

scubadawg
01-28-2013, 08:26 PM
I'm using a Reef octopus water blaster 7000 in my 187 gallon

albert_dao
01-28-2013, 08:26 PM
*tank is 8' long, 20" wide and so 20" tall :P

Laguna's are an Askoll-based return pump. You won't find a higher quality product anywhere on the market. Wavelines are okay, but they have diminishing returns on head. Still a good option though.

Madmak
01-28-2013, 08:43 PM
You for sure want something close to the 2000 gph mark then.

I only put slightly more flow through my sump than my skimmer flow is rated at. That's just been my rule of thumb and works for me. Keeps things quiet as well.

2bafish
01-28-2013, 09:01 PM
Can't find anything on the wave line pumps.

albert_dao
01-28-2013, 09:11 PM
I only put slightly more flow through my sump than my skimmer flow is rated at. That's just been my rule of thumb and works for me. Keeps things quiet as well.

There's easier ways of keeping things quiet :P

subman
01-28-2013, 09:12 PM
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I'm running 2 wave line dc5000's. Decent flow and very quiet with low power consumption

globaldesigns
01-28-2013, 09:19 PM
Eheim 1262 isn't enough... I had one of these and just took it out a couple weeks back, and put a Mag18 back in... This was due to the fact that there wasn't enought water turnover in the sump for my new skimmer.

The eheim pump is a great pump, but for turnover rate of your tank you need more.

My tank is a 180 gallon with 100 gallon sump.

2bafish
01-28-2013, 09:23 PM
Is wave line the same as speedwave pumps? Was able to find something on wave line pumps.

Madmak
01-28-2013, 09:29 PM
There's easier ways of keeping things quiet :P

True, but 2000 GPH+ through a sump that holds a 600 GPH skimmer is just a waste of energy and is noisier than need be.

Use a closed loop or power heads for DT flow. I have a 4500 GPH closed loop and keep sump turnover to a minimum.

Water needs time in the sump to make use of LR, refugium, skimmer, and all the other goodies in there.

albert_dao
01-28-2013, 09:40 PM
True, but 2000 GPH+ through a sump that holds a 600 GPH skimmer is just a waste of energy and is noisier than need be.

Use a closed loop or power heads for DT flow. I have a 4500 GPH closed loop and keep sump turnover to a minimum.

Water needs time in the sump to make use of LR, refugium, skimmer, and all the other goodies in there.

I will offer no argument to that, haha.

ensquire
01-28-2013, 09:44 PM
Is wave line the same as speedwave pumps? Was able to find something on wave line pumps.

They are, Concept sells them..

2bafish
01-28-2013, 10:56 PM
Looks like we're going with a speedwave pump. Thanks for the input guys. And your advice Albert.