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Jaws
11-28-2012, 04:55 AM
I have a 100G Refugium that I'll be setting up in the next couple weeks and I'm looking for some recommendations on what sort of things are going to be the most beneficial to grow. For starters, the tank is Divided in the center so there will be two totally separate areas but they will be equally fed with about 300GPH. I know chaeto Is probably a must but what other things including substrate would you use if you could do it all over again? Thanks :)

lpsreefer
11-28-2012, 05:12 AM
i use mangroves on ones side of mine.

reefwars
11-28-2012, 06:26 AM
i dose about 10 different types of pods, my sump is a circus of activity.

both a mandarin and scooter too fat to move lol

i gave up on macro too messy for little results in large tanks unless your growing huge amounts , i love mangroves as well :)

Jaws
11-28-2012, 06:41 AM
I know mangroves are nice but I heard they're actually not very good nutrient exporters unless you have TONS of them.

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Jaws
11-28-2012, 08:22 PM
Anyone else?

kien
11-28-2012, 08:30 PM
There's Red Algae:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSL25cYekvJQWGyGl-T8ixPQtWVZTYDwHZxYIBwgoTH95_ko9hWg

And Halimede:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0zZSQzScOwVKDvSjBnQzykbVR14UJy FdXBlDv_v9PdSEqoZ0e

I'd stay away from things that can easily go sexual on you though, like Caulerpa.

http://www.reefcorner.com/images/GrapeCaulerpa.jpg

I also used to house cleaner shrimp in my 'fuge because they spawned like bunnies which is great for feeding the tank.

Reefgoat
11-28-2012, 08:30 PM
What are your expectations or goals for the Refugium?

Jaws
11-28-2012, 09:11 PM
Thanks Kien.

Reefgoat: I plan on having a fairly high bioload so I wanna hit it from every angle for nutrient export including a large refugium. Secondary would be for pods but that's pretty much a natural biproduct of any refugium.

tim the toolman
11-29-2012, 01:52 AM
I love caulerpa personally, you do run the risk of it going sexual but I've never had it happen and have ran it for nearly 2 yrs. just have to prune it back every other month

Jaws
11-29-2012, 02:18 PM
What about substrate? Sugar sand or Miracle Mud or one in each 50G section?

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FishyFishy!
11-29-2012, 02:33 PM
I love caulerpa personally, you do run the risk of it going sexual but I've never had it happen and have ran it for nearly 2 yrs. just have to prune it back every other month


I've read that if you run the lights 24/7 they actually won't even go sexual, which is a bonus.

I don't like Caulerpa because of the risk. I would personally go half tumbling cheato, and half dsb/mud with mangroves. Maybe some red/purple macro.

Halemida is ok, but it sucks up calcium.

mikeclarke
11-29-2012, 02:55 PM
Can I grow pods in my sump? I just have a skimmer in the main section and a uv in the final section where the return pump is. I'd like to eventually get mandarins so that I why I am asking.

FishyFishy!
11-29-2012, 03:32 PM
Can I grow pods in my sump? I just have a skimmer in the main section and a uv in the final section where the return pump is. I'd like to eventually get mandarins so that I why I am asking.

No, not really. You need a dedicated section for a fuge. Do you have another section in the sump? Can't do one in either a skimmer section or a return section. However, if you have live rock in your sump, that will host some pods and such, but a fuge is best for sure.

The idea is that there will be nothing in there to kill, or eat the pod colonies. No crabs, no fish, minimal pumps etc.. Snails to clean the glass, and something to turn the dsb (if you have one) like a star or a cucumber. And some macro for nutrient export.

FishyFishy!
11-29-2012, 03:35 PM
Here is a good site with lots of pictures of different fuge setups.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-06/reefslides/index.php

Salt2Death
11-29-2012, 04:16 PM
Here is a good site with lots of pictures of different fuge setups.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-06/reefslides/index.php

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mikeclarke
11-29-2012, 06:05 PM
No, not really. You need a dedicated section for a fuge. Do you have another section in the sump? Can't do one in either a skimmer section or a return section. However, if you have live rock in your sump, that will host some pods and such, but a fuge is best for sure.

The idea is that there will be nothing in there to kill, or eat the pod colonies. No crabs, no fish, minimal pumps etc.. Snails to clean the glass, and something to turn the dsb (if you have one) like a star or a cucumber. And some macro for nutrient export.

I suppose I could put them underneath the filter sock section before the baffles and the heater. Or I have a couple feet section of space for my skimmer. Maybe I could divide that in half.

Jaws
11-29-2012, 10:20 PM
Snails to clean the glass, and something to turn the dsb (if you have one) like a star or a cucumber. And some macro for nutrient export.

I heard that the staple food for sand sifting starfish is pods. Is that wrong?

Here is a good site with lots of pictures of different fuge setups.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-06/reefslides/index.php

Thanks!

Jaws
11-29-2012, 10:29 PM
Will pods make it through filter socks?

Aquattro
11-29-2012, 10:52 PM
Will pods make it through filter socks?


Not unless they're really really small :)

kien
11-29-2012, 10:56 PM
but they will totally go up and over the filter sock when it fills up and start to overflow :-)

..well, okay, not all of them will. Some of them will cling onto the filter sock and you'll end up washing them out of the sock when you rinse it. You'll then make a desperate attempt to save the poor little guy by throwing him back into the display tank only to have him instantly gobbled up by your fish.. doh!

True story :cry: