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Nano
06-13-2012, 03:42 AM
Saw this at walmart of all places for like $450
DSLR 10.2mp
and other junk too lol. Anyways it seems to be a lot better then my nikon p500
would this be a decent camera with a macro lense for close shooting? I played with it a bit, and it seems to preform better then my current camera, and they are on sale for fathers day! ;)

help me sway the Mrs.

mseepman
06-13-2012, 05:48 AM
I'm not really into cameras,but my understanding is that the D3000 didn't do any video. This may be important to you. Was it just the body that they had for sale or did it include the lens kit? Check out memory express for the D3100 which has HD video. Body is only $399 or body and lenses, $499. 14.4 megapixels too.

Just my two cents though.

Nano
06-13-2012, 06:33 AM
I'm not really into cameras,but my understanding is that the D3000 didn't do any video. This may be important to you. Was it just the body that they had for sale or did it include the lens kit? Check out memory express for the D3100 which has HD video. Body is only $399 or body and lenses, $499. 14.4 megapixels too.

Just my two cents though.

No video isnt necessary for this camera as my p500 takes great video this would be a strictly picture only camera, also from what I understand high mega pixels can lead to lower quality pictures if your micro processor isn't powerful enough to handle it. Just what I read anyway, could be wrong.

SeaHorse_Fanatic
06-13-2012, 07:01 AM
Have a D3000 and really like it. Great pics and solid camera choice. But yeah, if you want to do video, look at the D3100.

Nano
06-13-2012, 02:58 PM
Thanks Seahorse Fanatic
Like I said The Nikon P500 I have isn't fully DSLR but takes full 1080p Video so this is more for shooting. I need something thats has a faster frame rate/shutter speed then my current camera as well as something that I can get better macro shots with, so I saw this and figured it may be a good "1st" DSLR for the photography noob on the go. lol

Now If I can sell my 75g I might actually be able to get it! Lots of offers for it on kijiji mostly around $200 for the whole system...:lol: I think I can do better

Nano
06-13-2012, 03:00 PM
I have also been looking at the Canon EOS Rebel XSIbut I have no prior experience with canons

Nano
06-13-2012, 04:01 PM
Another question, I found a
Canon Rebel used for $375 with only 3854 pictures taking with it, according to the owner. :rolleyes:
good deal? or do I haggle? anyone have any experience with Canons?

NU-2reef
06-13-2012, 04:50 PM
Canons are good cameras. I have a eos rebel and am pleased with it. I got it as a gift but if I had my choice it would be Nikon. My background is in lens manufacturing and Nikon is one of my top two choices for lens quality. The other is Carl zeiss.

Either way both take great shots but I find canon more user friendly. I guess it's just what I got used to working with.

Nano
06-13-2012, 05:10 PM
thanks for the reply, I'm more familiar with nikon as I have had 2 so I may stick to what I know, I am considering having a look at the used Canon rebel XSI but if its used it may need a new shutter in the future

scubadawg
06-13-2012, 06:17 PM
http://www.shutteractuations.com/

Maximum Shutter Actuations Life Prediction:
Nikon D4:
Kevlar / carbon fibre composite shutter with 400,000 exposure durability
Nikon D3, D3x, D3s:
Kevlar / carbon fibre composite shutter with 300,000 exposure durability
Nikon D800/D800E:
Kevlar / carbon fibre composite shutter with 200,000 exposure durability
Nikon D700:
Kevlar / carbon fibre composite shutter with 150,000 exposure durability *
Nikon D7000, D300s, D300:
Factory tested Shutter life 150,000 actuations
Nikon D5100, D5000, D3100, D3000, D90:
Factory tested Shutter life 100,000 actuations
Nikon Older Models:
Donít have enough Information, Like D80 is to be said up to 50000 actuations. But Most newest model min have 100k actuations tested on the factory.

If your camera shutter has worn out, you can repair it at your camera service center, it will cost you 100 Ė 250 $. They will disassemble your camera and replace the shutter with the new one, and reset the shutter count to zero again, and start counting. In other word shutter count is representation of your camera shutter life expectations, not your camera life. After you change your camera shutter you can shoot normal again. Just like your car tire has worn out and you can change a new tire and your car start working again.

I prefer Nikon, I have 2 Nikon D200's, purchased the D300, then sold it to a friend to buy a D700, and just picked up the D800 last week, which I ordered in Feb.

A shutter should almost last you a lifetime, unless your shooting sports.

Nano
06-13-2012, 06:36 PM
thanks for the reply scubadawg, I know my friend is a photographer and she has the Nikon D90 and suggests that over the d3100 or others I listed I have found one used for $600 with 2 lenses 4 batteries charger case etc with 12k shots it looks like a pretty nice unit, and at 12k shots it should be a few years before the shutter has to be replaced

scubadawg
06-13-2012, 07:52 PM
IF you can budget $700.00 I would buy the Nikon D3200 with lens, this is what I would buy. Comes in Red or Black, the newer cameras have better low light shooting, I can shoot ISO 6400 with my D700, that looks like my D200 at ISO 800 or 400, Remember this is brand new with warranty, and you will have this camera for a few years.
I have no choice but to keep my D200's, they fit in my underwater camera housing for scuba diving, I would love to buy a new housing, but that's about $5000.00 for new housing plus ports and gears.

https://www.thecamerastore.com/products/nikon/nikon-d3200-18-55mm-f35-56-vr-red

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3200

http://en.nikon.ca/Nikon-Products/Product/Digital-SLR-Cameras/25492/D3200.html

http://cdn-3.nikon-cdn.com/static/images/blank.gif
Don't let the D3200's compact size and price fool you—packed inside this easy-to-use HD-SLR is serious Nikon power: a 24.2 MP DX-format CMOS sensor that excels in any light, EXPEED 3 image-processing for fast operation and creative in-camera effects, Full HD (1080p) movie recording, in-camera tutorials and much more. What does this mean for you? Simply stunning photos and videos in any setting. And now, with Nikon's optional Wireless Mobile Adapter, you can share those masterpieces instantly with your Smartphone or tablet!

Nano
06-13-2012, 07:58 PM
lol is that a sales pitch ;)

I dunno, My budget is about $600 ATM. Sold the FW tank so I can budget the $350 from that plus the extra $250. So I am between the D90 used with 12k shots or a new D3100 for $50 less

I have played a bit with both and they are both really easy cameras just dont know how much camera I need for Shooting the tank and everyday crap.

sphelps
06-13-2012, 09:17 PM
D90 is one of the best DX format bodies you can get. I've seen a few lightly used ones sell for $500. There are lots of the "lens kit" lenses kicking around for sale as well, usually very cheap at $100-$200 or so. These are the ones like the 18-70, 18-135, 18-55 and so on. I would go this route over the D3100. 12K shutter count BTW is not very high when it's designed for 150K +, I doubt you'll ever use it up. $600 for what you've listed sounds like a smoking deal.

However keep in mind a macro lens is going to cost you over $500 so if that's your main intention you might want to consider a cheaper used body like a D80 or even D70s.

scubadawg
06-13-2012, 09:24 PM
I would buy the D3100 over the D90, newer camera better sensor, etc.
When I bought the D700, 3 years ago, it was 3000.00, and when I bought the D800 last week, it's $3000.00 also, but with 3X the pixels 12 meg vs 36 meg, plus HDV video. The D800 will be my last camera for at least 5 years now.

The D90 is 4 years old now. My D200 is 7 years old now, I only use it for underwater. Can't justify a new housing for the D800, it's tempting

http://www.bluewaterphotostore.com/sea-and-sea-mdx-d800

I have all the ports and gears for it, but it's probably going to land in at 3600.00-3800.00, then what do I do with 2 Nikon D200 bodies.
And I have 2 underwater housing for the D200.

scubadawg
06-13-2012, 09:27 PM
D90 is one of the best DX format bodies you can get. I've seen a few lightly used ones sell for $500. There are lots of the "lens kit" lenses kicking around for sale as well, usually very cheap at $100-$200 or so. These are the ones like the 18-70, 18-135, 18-55 and so on. I would go this route over the D3100. 12K shutter count BTW is not very high when it's designed for 150K +, I doubt you'll ever use it up. $600 for what you've listed sounds like a smoking deal.

However keep in mind a macro lens is going to cost you over $500 so if that's your main intention you might want to consider a cheaper used body like a D80 or even D70s.

My friend has a D70's, he ordered a D3200 body, I originally had a D70, then sold it to friend when I bought the D200's, are you interested in a D70s body?

Nano
06-13-2012, 09:30 PM
How much?

scubadawg
06-13-2012, 11:52 PM
I called him, he's going to keep the D70s as a backup SLR

Nano
06-14-2012, 03:01 AM
so after some careful consideration, of the fact that I already have a great video camera, I will be going with the D3000 which is basically the D3100 with out the video camera and slightly lower mega pixels. only $349 right now too, so I can get a macro lens or telephoto lens for hunting season :D