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Carrera75
06-09-2012, 04:28 PM
I need advice from those that have some experience raising banggai fry. The male Banngai should be releasing the fry fairly soon and I am totally inexperienced rearing fish fry. How often should they get fed?

I have done research and it seems that some people feed baby brine shrimp, micro worms and rotifiers. There is also a guy that reared the fry on frozen prawn eggs very succesfully. Does anybody know where I can get frozen prawn eggs?

Any advice on what to feed these little super cute fish is much appreciated.

Skimmerking
06-09-2012, 04:48 PM
what i did Daniel was almost the time to release i caught him at night or when ever was a good time. Then once he released the fry sometimes in the tnak i just used a net and put them in the hatchery. and fed them rotifers from the LFS.

Carrera75
06-09-2012, 05:07 PM
what i did Daniel was almost the time to release i caught him at night or when ever was a good time. Then once he released the fry sometimes in the tnak i just used a net and put them in the hatchery. and fed them rotifers from the LFS.



Hey Mike,

Is this what you are talking about? How often did you feed them and how many survived?

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/rm-rf006/Reef+Nutrition+Roti-Feast+Premium+Concentrate+-+6oz..html

Does anybody know where I can get frozen prawn eggs? I read that people are having lots of success with this food.

http://www.nutramar.com/ova.html

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45267

Thanks

tang daddy
06-10-2012, 09:53 AM
To breed bangaii fry you can hatch and feed baby brine, as the member said you can try catching the adult male or just catch the hatchlings when released and have them in a 5 or 10g breeding tank with an airstone and heater, do not use powerheads. Naturally in the ocean they hide in-between spines of urchins. My friend built a fake urchin with putty and a few toothpicks they hide in it.

Be carefull when they are small they should not be taken out of water and are very sensitive to salinity, when he caught two babies for me to raise as soon as they came out of water into the container which was less than 2 second out of water they were floating due to air starvation. We put an airline in and they started slowly swimming again after a minute, that was a scary time....... It would be a good idea to have an airstone to aerate the holding tank. You feed live baby brine and should do regular water-changes because the brine foul water quick. You can purchase larger amounts of brine shrimp online it will cost you more if you buy locally. you should be hatching 1/2 teaspoon every other day and usually takes 24-36 hrs to hatch, the hatched brine can last 2 feedings or 2 days.

You can diy a brine shrimp hatchery or buy 2 of monocus here, I am grabbing a few from him myself. He was nice enough to order a bunch up.

The reason why you have 2 is to keep hatching brine, you will need a strong airpump and a manifold so you can have 2 hatchery and your tank running at the same time.

It takes effort to raise bangaii but all the work pays off when you see the cute buggers...

Text me if you have any other questions....

toytech
06-10-2012, 10:55 PM
congrats on the new arravials , bangaii are so cool . Lets see some pics.

syncro
06-10-2012, 11:31 PM
Awesome!

You might find more info at http://www.marinebreeder.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=133&sid=8416c3a9f725aa1645fdf40c456eef2c

Carrera75
06-12-2012, 05:01 PM
To breed bangaii fry you can hatch and feed baby brine, as the member said you can try catching the adult male or just catch the hatchlings when released and have them in a 5 or 10g breeding tank with an airstone and heater, do not use powerheads. Naturally in the ocean they hide in-between spines of urchins. My friend built a fake urchin with putty and a few toothpicks they hide in it.

Be carefull when they are small they should not be taken out of water and are very sensitive to salinity, when he caught two babies for me to raise as soon as they came out of water into the container which was less than 2 second out of water they were floating due to air starvation. We put an airline in and they started slowly swimming again after a minute, that was a scary time....... It would be a good idea to have an airstone to aerate the holding tank. You feed live baby brine and should do regular water-changes because the brine foul water quick. You can purchase larger amounts of brine shrimp online it will cost you more if you buy locally. you should be hatching 1/2 teaspoon every other day and usually takes 24-36 hrs to hatch, the hatched brine can last 2 feedings or 2 days.

You can diy a brine shrimp hatchery or buy 2 of monocus here, I am grabbing a few from him myself. He was nice enough to order a bunch up.

The reason why you have 2 is to keep hatching brine, you will need a strong airpump and a manifold so you can have 2 hatchery and your tank running at the same time.

It takes effort to raise bangaii but all the work pays off when you see the cute buggers...

Text me if you have any other questions....


Thanks for all the info Chris.


congrats on the new arravials , bangaii are so cool . Lets see some pics.

The male is still carrying the fry. I'll try to take some pics when he releases them.


Awesome!

You might find more info at http://www.marinebreeder.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=133&sid=8416c3a9f725aa1645fdf40c456eef2c


Thanks for sharing that link. I wonder how much longer the male is going to carry the fry in its mouth. The poor guy has not eaten since May 9th. The eggs hatched at the end of May and I thought that he would only carry the fry for 10 more days but they are still in his mouth. This guy must be starving!

Carrera75
06-13-2012, 09:25 PM
Exciting news! This morning when I woke up I inspected the tank to see if the fry had been released by the male but I didn't see any in the display. I looked at the back chamber and there were 2 tiny Banggais. No idea how these 2 little guys got there, but I decided to force the male to release the rest of the fry. There is 8 tiny banggais in total. I am afraid the male released more but they were eaten by the other fish.


Here are some pics of the fry, 8 in total and I have no idea what to do with them....lol. right now they are in a big net but I don't think that they should stay there long term. I tried to feed them Cyclopeeze and Rotifers but I am not sure that they ate anything.


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/c60e0064.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/7bf4be84.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/5d0eb6c2.jpg

Borderjumper
06-13-2012, 09:39 PM
When I had mine I took one of the plastic containers that some of the lfs use to package coral and drilled tiny holes all around it for water flow and set it in my sump.The baby's stayed there until they were bigger and then I sectioned off a piece of my sump just for them,, I can't help you with the food issue.. Mine would only eat live baby brine..I was never ale to get them to eat anything.

Din Gior
06-13-2012, 09:47 PM
Exciting news! This morning when I woke up I inspected the tank to see if the fry had been released by the male but I didn't see any in the display. I looked at the back chamber and there were 2 tiny Banggais. No idea how these 2 little guys got there, but I decided to force the male to release the rest of the fry. There is 8 tiny banggais in total. I am afraid the male released more but they were eaten by the other fish.


Here are some pics of the fry, 8 in total and I have no idea what to do with them....lol. right now they are in a big net but I don't think that they should stay there long term. I tried to feed them Cyclopeeze and Rotifers but I am not sure that they ate anything.


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/c60e0064.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/7bf4be84.jpg


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/5d0eb6c2.jpg

That's cool. I would recommend to hatch brine shrimps.

Carrera75
06-13-2012, 09:52 PM
When I had mine I took one of the plastic containers that some of the lfs use to package coral and drilled tiny holes all around it for water flow and set it in my sump.The baby's stayed there until they were bigger and then I sectioned off a piece of my sump just for them,, I can't help you with the food issue.. Mine would only eat live baby brine..I was never ale to get them to eat anything.

Hey Shelley,

My tank does not have a sump, so I am not sure where I'll put them. I think the flow in the display tank is too much for them. I might do what you did and use a plastic container, drilling some holes for flow and hopefully that works.

I bought the baby brine shrimp eggs but I am lazy and don';t want to set up a hatchery. I would be open to give them away to somebody with more experienced and with the right set up and time to raise them.

SeaHorse_Fanatic
06-13-2012, 09:53 PM
Great news. Good luck raising those cutie pies.

Borderjumper
06-14-2012, 01:01 AM
Hey Shelley,

My tank does not have a sump, so I am not sure where I'll put them. I think the flow in the display tank is too much for them. I might do what you did and use a plastic container, drilling some holes for flow and hopefully that works.

I bought the baby brine shrimp eggs but I am lazy and don';t want to set up a hatchery. I would be open to give them away to somebody with more experienced and with the right set up and time to raise them.

If you clip the cup into your display they will be fine for weeks..the issue at hand is they have to eat soon.. I found the hurky jerky motion of the baby brine triggered their feeding response. Hopefully someone local and take them and get them eating.

Carrera75
06-14-2012, 02:12 AM
I fed them rotifiers and cyclopeeze and I think they went for it.

Coralgurl
06-14-2012, 02:37 AM
Soooo cute, hope all goes well with them!

Borderjumper
06-14-2012, 02:57 AM
I fed them rotifiers and cyclopeeze and I think they went for it.

Nice you will see their little bellys get big if they are eating!

Carrera75
06-14-2012, 05:55 AM
I wonder why here are only 8 little guys. The info I found on the net says that there is usually over 20 little guys. I have a feeling that the Male released the fry slowly and the other fish in the tank ate them :-(

CandyCane
06-15-2012, 05:44 PM
Couldnt you feed them frozen cyclopeez. Not sure how to spell that. Or do the fry only go for live food?

Carrera75
06-24-2012, 02:46 AM
Here is a quick update on the Banggai fry. All 8 little ones that I originally caught are still very much alive and getting fatter and bigger pretty fast. They only eat live brine shrimp once or twice a day, and am open that they will eventually start taking other types of food.

The Banggai pair didn't waste anytime and the male is carrying eggs AGAIN already.


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/18e5890d.jpg



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/8b9bc575.jpg



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/1e74d235.jpg



http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/yvr_75/f5b447e1.jpg

Borderjumper
06-24-2012, 04:59 AM
Good job! They sure are cute!