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Eb0la11
12-26-2011, 06:28 AM
What parts do you find essential in your system in terms of plumbing?

I have configured systems in the past with mostly pvc pipe and don't like the rigidity of it and would like to hear how people are softening some of their plumbing, especially anywhere a 90 degree would be required.

Also, if you dont mind on commenting where in Calgary you found these parts? The best places I found parts was Rona and Western Pump. Home Depot has some but not a lot often times.

Seth81
12-26-2011, 07:40 AM
What parts do you find essential in your system in terms of plumbing?

I have configured systems in the past with mostly pvc pipe and don't like the rigidity of it and would like to hear how people are softening some of their plumbing, especially anywhere a 90 degree would be required.

Also, if you dont mind on commenting where in Calgary you found these parts? The best places I found parts was Rona and Western Pump. Home Depot has some but not a lot often times.

You are right about Western Pump and Rona, only probelem is that they don't stock any true union ball valves, or any sch 80 stuff. I found the best value for any sch 80 fittings was www.pvcfittingsonline.com (http://www.pvcfittingsonline.com) Just make sure you order extras of everything, otherwise you'll have to make 3 or 4 orders. And shipping and duties are painfull ( still much cheaper for sch 80 and ball valves though).

To me the most important thing is unions. Also another very important aspect of plumbing that no one seems to mention is how you hang your plumbing. I originally had my pipe and fittings directly supported on a wall via some screw in clamps, boy was that ever a mistake! the entire house vibrated from the pump!! it was horrible, my sump is in my basement, and I could clearly hear/feel the pump from my master bedroom on the second floor!! So after talking it over with a few people I put in a flex connection from the discharge of my pump to a section of rigid PVC that was all suspended from the wall, not directly touching, and it made all the difference in the world! No it is barley auidble on the main floor.

jostafew
12-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Not sure i this is what you meant by "softening" but when i first plumbed my system i used a 90deg pvc conduit elbow (grey pvc) instead of a regular 90. The idea was increasing the radius for better flow over a standard sharp 90 deg elbow. Got the parts from Home Depot. I've since removed all of that for more compact but less efficient plumbing to gain more space in the cabinet. I had to throttle the return pump back anyway so i didn't mind the loss.

After that i've seen ppl use flexible pvc in place of rigid for ease of use and smoother bends. Couldn't tell you exactly where to find in AB though.

As mentioned above you'll want unions for ease of service, ball valves to isolate sections of plumbing, gate valves to regulate flow, and a section of vinyl tubing between the return pump and rigid plumbing to help reduce the transfer of vibrations.

Eb0la11
12-26-2011, 07:38 PM
You are right about Western Pump and Rona, only probelem is that they don't stock any true union ball valves, or any sch 80 stuff. I found the best value for any sch 80 fittings was www.pvcfittingsonline.com (http://www.pvcfittingsonline.com) Just make sure you order extras of everything, otherwise you'll have to make 3 or 4 orders. And shipping and duties are painfull ( still much cheaper for sch 80 and ball valves though).

To me the most important thing is unions. Also another very important aspect of plumbing that no one seems to mention is how you hang your plumbing. I originally had my pipe and fittings directly supported on a wall via some screw in clamps, boy was that ever a mistake! the entire house vibrated from the pump!! it was horrible, my sump is in my basement, and I could clearly hear/feel the pump from my master bedroom on the second floor!! So after talking it over with a few people I put in a flex connection from the discharge of my pump to a section of rigid PVC that was all suspended from the wall, not directly touching, and it made all the difference in the world! No it is barley auidble on the main floor.

Where do you get your flex connections from? Do you typically get clear ones or not? I would think not but usually I just see clear ones, and do you just use a hose barb to connect?

intarsiabox
12-26-2011, 11:53 PM
I'm not sure if I am following you correctly or not, but spa flex is a flexible PVC pipe that is available at places like Greggs Distributors or hot tub supply shops. The OD of the pipe is the same as regular rigid PVC pipe and fits into all the same fitting with regular primer and PVC glue.

Eb0la11
12-27-2011, 01:55 AM
And its aquarium safe?

intarsiabox
12-27-2011, 02:56 AM
And its aquarium safe?

Yep, lots of people on this forum use it.

Wayne
12-28-2011, 01:58 AM
Yep, lots of people on this forum use it.

Is that the stuff I got from you on your old tank?

intarsiabox
12-28-2011, 05:25 AM
Is that the stuff I got from you on your old tank?

Yes, I believe so Wayne.

Aquarium_Medics
12-28-2011, 06:55 PM
Western Pump in south calgary carries sch 80 pipes, but they keep it in the stock room, so you have to ask specifically for it. They will also oreder in any sch 80 pieces you need.

Eb0la11
12-31-2011, 12:49 AM
So what application requires sch 80 pvc and what is ok for regular?

jostafew
12-31-2011, 07:25 AM
Schedule 80 pipe and fittings are designed for higher pressure applications and will have thicker walls. That being said schedule 40 is rated to much higher pressures than we will be dealing with in our regular aquarium plumming, so aside from physical abuse schedule 40 will work just fine. However if you can only find the schedule 80 version of a fitting you want, no harm in mixing that with the schedule 40 pipe etc.

Here's some further info if you like:
http://pvcfittingsdirect.com/_e/page/1003/Schedule_40_vs_Schedule_80.htm