Metal Stand capacity?

[noirsphynx]

Hoping I can get some help. I had a stand built for my new tank made out of 1" metal tubing but I'm wondering if it can handle the weight of my aquarium? The aquarium measures 96" x 16" x 16" and is roughly 95g.
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[The Grizz]

Well NOW I am really insulted :surprise: you had a stand built and not by me :question:

Just my 2 cent here but I would not have made it out of 1" without adding at least vertical support every 2'. All my stands are 1.5" tube & anything over 6' I use a heavier walled tube for the front & back top rails.

Are you planning on skinning the stand at all? If you are make sure to screw at least 1/2" plywood securely to the back to give it a little more straingth.

Oh also you are closer to 106 gals by my calculator.

[fishytime]

All my stands are 1.5" tube & anything over 6" I use a heavier walled tube for the front & back top rails.


oh great......Laurie said you put the stand top up.......then I tumbled it around to get the strech wrap off it without cutting it.....I said it doent matter......its built the same all around.....I could even flip it on its front cuz its 30 x 30 and it wouldnt matter.......*buzzer sound*....wrong!......I dont know if its top up anymore:neutral:......any way to tell, there Grizzmonger?

sorry for the "jack" Dawn.....sweet looking tank BTW

[The Grizz]

oh great......Laurie said you put the stand top up.......then I tumbled it around to get the strech wrap off it without cutting it.....I said it doent matter......its built the same all around.....I could even flip it on its front cuz its 30 x 30 and it wouldnt matter.......*buzzer sound*....wrong!......I dont know if its top up anymore:neutral:......any way to tell, there Grizzmonger?

sorry for the "jack" Dawn.....sweet looking tank BTW

'Top F' is stamped into the top side of the stand :biggrin:

[fishytime]

'Top F' is stamped into the top side of the stand :biggrin:

whew!..... thanks bud

[Nano]

thats more then 95 gallons me thinks. standard 90s are around 48x18x18 i think..

[reefwars]

thats more then 95 gallons me thinks. standard 90s are around 48x18x18 i think..


ummm not quite dawns is actually about 106g minus overflow and not being filled to the exact top so prob around 95g give or take a gallon;)

standard 90 to my knolege is 48x18x24(at least mine is anyways;ppp)

[reefwars]

i drink alot(tonight especially) and have been wrong once before though soooooo cheers;)

[The Grizz]

thats more then 95 gallons me thinks. standard 90s are around 48x18x18 i think..

ummm not quite dawns is actually about 106g minus overflow and not being filled to the exact top so prob around 95g give or take a gallon;)

standard 90 to my knolege is 48x18x24(at least mine is anyways;ppp)

Kind of what I said in my first post ^^

[reefwars]

Kind of what I said in my first post ^^


hahaha jebus(edit that so i dont get banned!! hehe) i never even noticed lol good math mate;)


so would the 1" not be strong enough with only 950ish lbs spread over 8ft?? would putting 45degree braces help any in the corners??:):)

[Nano]

ummm not quite dawns is actually about 106g minus overflow and not being filled to the exact top so prob around 95g give or take a gallon;)

standard 90 to my knolege is 48x18x24(at least mine is anyways;ppp)

weird I bought my 90 gallon labelled and everything lol 48x18x18! I hope someone didnt screw up and short me 25 gallons!

[reefwars]

weird I bought my 90 gallon labelled and everything lol 48x18x18! I hope someone didnt screw up and short me 25 gallons!



just shy of 70g ;)

[The Grizz]

weird I bought my 90 gallon labelled and everything lol 48x18x18! I hope someone didnt screw up and short me 25 gallons!

That's only 67 gal compactly at 48 x 18 x 18

[Nano]

Well that's a **** off guess I'll be Returning it Haha

[reefwars]

That's only 67 gal compactly at 48 x 18 x 18


kinda what i posted^^^^^ razz!!!! hehehe ;) gregg im gonna want a stand made up here soon one day, more than likely in the spring when i ditch the 90 and the rusty stand its on, hope your up for the task:):)

[Myka]

Hoping I can get some help. I had a stand built for my new tank made out of 1" metal tubing but I'm wondering if it can handle the weight of my aquarium? The aquarium measures 96" x 16" x 16" and is roughly 95g.

I sure don't like that unsupported 4' span. I've only ever heard of one stand collapsing though, but I would not like for yours to be number two! I think the biggest risk is that you will crack the bottom pane of glass probably right where that center support is. I've seen more than one 8-10' tank cracked in that spot. LOVE your tank dimensions!

[mr_alberta]

I think you mean every 2'-0" and every 6'-0" right? Otherwise that's a lot of legs! :razz:

How thick is the 1" tubing?

Well NOW I am really insulted :surprise: you had a stand built and not by me :question:

Just my 2 cent here but I would not have made it out of 1" without adding at least vertical support every 2". All my stands are 1.5" tube & anything over 6" I use a heavier walled tube for the front & back top rails.

Are you planning on skinning the stand at all? If you are make sure to screw at least 1/2" plywood securely to the back to give it a little more straingth.

Oh also you are closer to 106 gals by my calculator.

[reefwars]

I think you mean every 2'-0" and every 6'-0" right? Otherwise that's a lot of legs! :razz:

How thick is the 1" tubing?


haha true think greg likes to overkill a bit hehehe

[noirsphynx]

Well NOW I am really insulted :surprise: you had a stand built and not by me :question:

Just my 2 cent here but I would not have made it out of 1" without adding at least vertical support every 2'. All my stands are 1.5" tube & anything over 6' I use a heavier walled tube for the front & back top rails.

Are you planning on skinning the stand at all? If you are make sure to screw at least 1/2" plywood securely to the back to give it a little more straingth.

Oh also you are closer to 106 gals by my calculator.

Well, I had it built for free :mrgreen:

Not planning on skinning it just probably going to throw a skirt around it.

So I assume this thing probably isn't going to withstand the weight?

[The Grizz]

kinda what i posted^^^^^ razz!!!! hehehe ;) gregg im gonna want a stand made up here soon one day, more than likely in the spring when i ditch the 90 and the rusty stand its on, hope your up for the task:):)

I was a little more persise :razz: & yes always up for a task :biggrin:


I sure don't like that unsupported 4' span. I've only ever heard of one stand collapsing though, but I would not like for yours to be number two! I think the biggest risk is that you will crack the bottom pane of glass probably right where that center support is. I've seen more than one 8-10' tank cracked in that spot. LOVE your tank dimensions!

My point exactly :biggrin:

I think you mean every 2'-0" and every 6'-0" right? Otherwise that's a lot of legs! :razz:

How thick is the 1" tubing?

DAMN iPad, yes your correct. Edited my first post thanks :biggrin:

[The Grizz]

Well that is a good point Dawn, free is always good.

If you wiggle the tank at one end in both directions how much does it move?

[Myka]

If you wiggle the tank at one end in both directions how much does it move?

Oh come on...it weighs a ton, bet it doesn't move easily! :p

Dawn, just add some more vertical pieces. :) I would say two more along the front and two more along the back.

[noirsphynx]

ummm not quite dawns is actually about 106g minus overflow and not being filled to the exact top so prob around 95g give or take a gallon;)

standard 90 to my knolege is 48x18x24(at least mine is anyways;ppp)

And the glass is also 1/2" thick.

[noirsphynx]

I sure don't like that unsupported 4' span. I've only ever heard of one stand collapsing though, but I would not like for yours to be number two! I think the biggest risk is that you will crack the bottom pane of glass probably right where that center support is. I've seen more than one 8-10' tank cracked in that spot. LOVE your tank dimensions!

That's my fear!:cry:

[noirsphynx]

How thick is the 1" tubing?

Not too sure.

[The Grizz]

Oh come on...it weighs a ton, bet it doesn't move easily! :p

You would be surprised how metal moves if it is not solid enough, I should know I work with it every day. 1" tube can bend fairly easy.

[Myka]

I was joking Grizz. :neutral:

And the glass is also 1/4" thick.

Isn't the glass 1/2" or 3/8" at least? Is it really 1/4"? Do you know how thick the bottom pane is? Is the bottom pane tempered?

[The Grizz]

I know this is going to be a tough question to answer but are the corners of the tube almost square or do they have a bit of a rounded corner?

[noirsphynx]

Well that is a good point Dawn, free is always good.

If you wiggle the tank at one end in both directions how much does it move?

Not even a little bit.

[noirsphynx]

I know this is going to be a tough question to answer but are the corners of the tube almost square or do they have a bit of a rounded corner?

A bit rounded.
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[noirsphynx]

I was joking Grizz. :neutral:



Isn't the glass 1/2" or 3/8" at least? Is it really 1/4"? Do you know how thick the bottom pane is? Is the bottom pane tempered?

Oops, yup it's 1/2"

[The Grizz]

Ok well it's possible that the tube is 1/8" thick but for piec of mind I would see if you could get 4 more vertical tubes put in so that there is one every 2 FEET. :biggrin:

[noirsphynx]

Ok well it's possible that the tube is 1/8" thick but for piec of mind I would see if you could get 4 more vertical tubes put in so that there is one every 2 FEET. :biggrin:

Yeah, I would feel more comfortable with that. Really kicking myself for not getting some input before I had this thing built :sad: Now I'll have to see if I can find a welder near by to fix this thing up for me. Thanks for your help Grizz!!!

[reefwars]

Yeah, I would feel more comfortable with that. Really kicking myself for not getting some input before I had this thing built :sad: Now I'll have to see if I can find a welder near by to fix this thing up for me.


humm dawn a welder who frequents edmonton alot and likes frags....gee could be tuff hehe:)

[noirsphynx]

humm dawn a welder who frequents edmonton alot and likes frags....gee could be tuff hehe:)

Lol Denny, not much of anything available in my tank right now to share and I'm 20 mins. north of Edmonton so it's a bit out of the way. I may be able to get some help closer to me, we'll see(I hope).

My main problem now is muscles to move this tank off the stand because neither myself or my hubby can lift it due to back issues =/ I dragged Shaun & Chris out here to get it in my house.

[Hustler]

Just get more cut with a plate on each end and screw em in :) then you dont have to move anything...If your skirting it anyways
the weight will go down when its full unless you plan on rocking it I dont see a problem.
My stand is 8 feet and only has a center brace... its 1 1/2" 1/4 wall but still its got 300 gallons on it :)
And heres my 180 dual rack i made with No Center braces in the top part of the stand...and its a 2 piece so its not even welded together LOL
Rock solid and 1 1/4" I have alot of faith in thicker softer styrafoam to take up that bit of flex in the stand.
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All that being said however... I didnt build it so theres no warrenty here LOL

[sphelps]

1" tube with 1/8" wall would put you at about 100MPa so depending on material and your ability to live life on the edge you're technically OK as even plain carbon steel is around 220-250Mpa. So either make sure it's secured to a wall or something to prevent it from being bumped over or take the advice of others and add some reinforcement. Personally I would get myself some 3/4" ply and screw it to the frame all around and cut some access panels in it for doors, that would make it plenty rigid, plus who likes unfinished open stands?