My New Pergola (Japanese Gazebo) - Pics

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Thanks goes out to Dave (BCA friend) for coming in to give me a hand on Friday, as well as my buddy Dean (carpenter friend from Powell River) and my bro, Stan.

Here's what we were working on this weekend. Did the construction part on Friday & Saturday & I installed the roof this morning (last part was done in the rain).

Had to build it in 2 days because the forecast was for rain Sunday/Monday. Luckily we got it done in 2 days (just had to install the roofing material (polycarbonate 7'x3' corrugated sheets)

Cleared off all the garbage in prep.

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Laying out the wood Friday morning.

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First pieces up.

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Lifting up the 26' 6x6 beams.
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Installing the 14' rafters on Saturday.

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Added extra decorative rafter pieces to improve the Look!

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Side view

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Here's top view of the roof (corrugated Polycarbonate).

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Lots of work but we got it up & done in just over 2 days, so very pleased.

Thanks for looking.

Anthony

[toxic111]

Nice Trellis.. man I wish I could get that nice cedar out here... here #3 is about the best I can normally find.

[hillegom]

Nice work Anthony. Looks good. Must have busted your alls.
This for the bbq this summer?

Toxic, #1 cedar is exported. Apparently we can't afford it either.

[toxic111]

Nice work Anthony. Looks good. Must have busted your alls.
This for the bbq this summer?

Toxic, #1 cedar is exported. Apparently we can't afford it either.

Oh I know #1 is exported.. it is why we can't get any good wood anymore.

I grew up on the west coast, so I know the wood. I am also in the constrcution industry (30yrs) & I have seen the quality of wood go way down.

Right now I am looking to special order some 8x8 & 6x14 clear cedar.... no idea what that is going to cost yet... at least I don't have to pay for it.

[Myka]

Very nice! It looks a bit funny to me though since I'm used to seeing a greater pitch. :lol: (we have snow load to worry about)

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Pergolas are almost always quite flat. It only slopes 1+' for the 26' length so very slight (2.3 degrees I think is what we calculated for cutting the tops of the posts).

This is supposed to be very strong polycarbonate (used for making skylights for many of the large supermarkets across Canada, including the Prairies) so hopefully it'll stand up to Vancouver's snowload.

It has 8 4x6 posts and is attached to the house. The main beams are 26' long and made from a laminate (nailed together) "sandwich of 12' & 14' (left) 3 @ 8' (middle) and 14' & 12' (right) 2x6s.

It's No.2 grade WRC so not bad. I lucked out and was able to order it through some guys at BCA for a great price. Altogether, the wood for the pergola was around $500+, but I ordered $734 worth (including $90 delivery) altogether for my other projects.

I plan to build my 10' x 3' x 8' tall bbq pergola next and then a 7' x 3' pergola cover for my patio swing.

Total cost for the project was $1500-1600, but that includes buying a used Bostitch 3.5" nail gun to speed up the process.

[Myka]

Pergolas are almost always quite flat.

This is supposed to be very strong polycarbonate [...] so hopefully it'll stand up to Vancouver's snowload.

Ya, that's why I can't have one...at least not with the nice polycarbonate. :( Anything that holds snow here has a steeper pitch. Of course there are pergolas, but they don't have a roof. I want both like you...! :D

[don.ald]

I plan to build my 10' x 3' x 8' tall bbq pergola next and then a 7' x 3' pergola cover for my patio swing.


and a Koi pond?:mrgreen:

[toxic111]

Ya, that's why I can't have one...at least not with the nice polycarbonate. :( Anything that holds snow here has a steeper pitch. Of course there are pergolas, but they don't have a roof. I want both like you...! :D

Actually the ground snow load in Vancouver is higher than saskatoon (believe it or not!)

Though that said having a pictched roof is better... you could do a gazebo instead of a trellis... or a sloped trellis, you don't need much slope. you want to remove the water that melts from the snow, that is what causes the problems more than the snow.

[mike31154]

Very nice looking wood & structure. I built a small one for my deck in Vernon, open top on it though. One of the perks of living in the Okanagan, the summers are very dry. I've planted a number of grape vines just off the deck, so within a few years, they will provide a living roof in the summer. With a south facing back yard, the requrement is more to provide shade from the summer sun rather than rain cover. The leaves will of course drop in the fall allowing the sun (when it's out in the winter) to provide light & perhaps a little heat during the snowy season.

[marie]

Looks great Anthony.....how long will it take you to have it framed in, insulated and fish tanks set up :lol:

[Tom R]

Looks great Anthony

My fishing buddy has a cabin on Deka Lake and we covered in his 30' x 24'
sun deck with a polycarbonate covered A frame structure. It has with stood 5winters now and looks as good as the day it was built. The winters on Deka Lake can be rather extreme.

I know we live in Gods Country however adding a polycarbonate cover to your pergola will certainly be useful on those seldom but off days.

Tom R

[StirCrazy]

Oh I know #1 is exported.. it is why we can't get any good wood anymore.

I grew up on the west coast, so I know the wood. I am also in the constrcution industry (30yrs) & I have seen the quality of wood go way down.

Right now I am looking to special order some 8x8 & 6x14 clear cedar.... no idea what that is going to cost yet... at least I don't have to pay for it.

you can get #1 up here. going to cost ya though. although it wasn't that unreasonable when I was looking into it for a project I have. the biggest problem with #1 is it is normaly smaller lenghts or random ones so unless you want to pay huge bucks you order a mixed lenght load of how many board feet you want.

Steve

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

and a Koi pond?:mrgreen:

I have a semicube tank that I raise koi in usually, but am looking at building a proper koi pond next to the deck.

[Myka]

Actually the ground snow load in Vancouver is higher than saskatoon (believe it or not!)

Though that said having a pictched roof is better... you could do a gazebo instead of a trellis... or a sloped trellis, you don't need much slope. you want to remove the water that melts from the snow, that is what causes the problems more than the snow.

The polycarbonate won't hold much snow would it? We were thinking of doing kind of an open clerestory roof where the trellis is the higher part of the clerestory roof, and then just use gutters to catch the water from the house. House has hip roof. Does that make any sense at all? :lol:

[toxic111]

The polycarbonate won't hold much snow would it? We were thinking of doing kind of an open clerestory roof where the trellis is the higher part of the clerestory roof, and then just use gutters to catch the water from the house. House has hip roof. Does that make any sense at all? :lol:

Sort off. I design for living, so I am good at visulization. Lol. If you ever decide to do something I am sure I can help you out figure something's out

[toxic111]

you can get #1 up here. going to cost ya though. although it wasn't that unreasonable when I was looking into it for a project I have. the biggest problem with #1 is it is normaly smaller lenghts or random ones so unless you want to pay huge bucks you order a mixed lenght load of how many board feet you want.

Steve

The sizes I am after will be a custom mill run. They would be for a multi-million dollar project.

The #1 you can buy wouldnt even be #3 20 yrs ago. All the real clear stuff gets exported

[Myka]

Sort off. I design for living, so I am good at visulization. Lol. If you ever decide to do something I am sure I can help you out figure something's out

I should take a pic and PM you, and see if you can come up with a better plan for me (if you don't mind).

[Lance]

Looks great Anthony. Well done! I'll have to stop in one day when I'm in town and try the BBQ. :biggrin:

[PoonTang]

looks good Anthony. Lol, you have a tank in your back yard, now thats dedication !

[toxic111]

I should take a pic and PM you, and see if you can come up with a better plan for me (if you don't mind).

No problem. I can take a look and see if I can give a suggestion

[StirCrazy]

The sizes I am after will be a custom mill run. They would be for a multi-million dollar project.

The #1 you can buy wouldnt even be #3 20 yrs ago. All the real clear stuff gets exported

I'll give you most of it gets exported but not all. there is a local mill up here that makes it to order. maybe all the big mills send it directly over sea but I know at least one smaller mill that doesn't. personaly I prefer #2 as I like knots that give the wood a rustic look.

Steve

[toxic111]

I'll give you most of it gets exported but not all. there is a local mill up here that makes it to order. maybe all the big mills send it directly over sea but I know at least one smaller mill that doesn't. personaly I prefer #2 as I like knots that give the wood a rustic look.

Steve

Small private mills will do small runs of #1 & select, for a cost, I agree. But any of the larger mills will be exporting..

#2 is great for certain things, but #1 & sel have the straight grain that I need to keep 8x8 posts that are 20'+ long straight. You will get more twisting & bending with #2 & below.