brown jelly on torch?? pics..

[Maverick00]

Im not too familiar with "brown jelly" being so new to saltwater (just over a year) and have been able thus far to avoid it.

I bought this torch from a LFS a few days ago. It was a "two headed coral" but i was just charged for a single head because it was suspected one of the two heads might recede back into its skeleton. The first and second day the coral seemed alright, wasnt opening too much but i assumed it was getting use to its new water parameters. On the third day i noticed the torch wasnt inflating at all, and some of the tentacles showed some signs of decay. Today it appears to have some kind of jelly on it and really looks like somethings wrong which lead to post a thread. I did a 10 gal wc this morning.

Nitrite Nitrate Ammonia Phosphate not detectable
Cal 420
Mag 1155
Alk 10.4
PH 8
80*F

sorry the pics are extremely blue. Ill try to spin the coral around and get some pics of the otherside asap. Thanks for any advice.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/beaubredesen/images/torch.JPGhttp://www.members.shaw.ca/beaubredesen/images/torch%20%282%29.JPG

[Wayne]

Looks dead to me... Sorry

[ALang]

Yeah, get it out immediately. Run carbon if you are not already, hopefully everything else is ok.

[Maverick00]

god dammit.... i figured id take a couple more shots to confirm. when i bought the coral there were already multiple "dead heads" on the rock itself. maybe that was a sign.. Is there anything i can do to try and save this thing? Im reading about it now, Iodine or FW dips if Iodine isnt accessible atm? thanks guys.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/beaubredesen/images/1.JPGhttp://www.members.shaw.ca/beaubredesen/images/2.JPG

[naesco]

Try placing it with more flow ensuring that the living part is closest to the flow direction.
It appears to me on the sand. Try moving it to the bottom 25%.
Try target feeding it a little bit of fresh shrimp or if you don't have it, try mysis with your flow shut off while feeding.

[The Grizz]

You need to dip that thing in something to remove the brown jelly. If you put it in a higher flow area you run the risk of speeding it around. Remove some of the dead heads try to save the one you have but I think it is to far gone already. There was another thread recently about brown jelly on ric's, see what they did to treat.

[Maverick00]

i removed it from the tank in a bucket of tank water, brushed off what i could, dipped it in a container of freshwater (same water temp) for 2 mins, back into a new container of tank water and "shook" it around abit to rinse. I have it back in the tank under moderate flow, ill try to target feed in abit here. Ill look for that thread grizz. Thanks guys

[daniella3d]

I recently had a very fast growing brown jelly epidemic on my ricordeas and lost a few before I realized it was brown jelly. I used furan-2 and did a dip with saltwater, Lugol iodine at 1 drop per 100ml and Furan-2 one pouch for 500ml mixed together in a plastic container (not in the tank!) for about 45 to 60 minutes. I did that each day for about 4 to 5 days and my ricordea healed and the brown jelly stopped (stopped after the first treatment). That was about 2 weeks ago and no more sign of brown jelly. When ever you see brown jelly you should act fast and if the coral is too far gone then the furan-2 won't do much. It's the only medicine that worked for me and now most of my ricordeas are growing to full size again and recovering.

The brown jelly is caused by a bacteria (vibrio mostly) that attack the coral, then the protozoares are taking over, invading the coral and eating all of its zooxanthellae. The Furan-2 works against the bacterias and the lugol kill most of the protozoares.

A freshwater dip will probably kill your coral long before it kill the bacterias. I would not target feed it right away but wait until it recover and start to heal because putting food in there will only fuel the bacterias more, beside, that coral is way too sick to eat I am pretty sure.

It's contagious so don,t spread it by putting it in high flow.

[Maverick00]

thanks for the advice daniella3d, im going to pick up some lugol and furan 2 tomorrow and give that a shot. As previously mentioned it looks too far gone but even if it doesnt make it ill know what to do next time it occurs and hopefully catch it earlier.

[The Grizz]

That was the thread I was looking for :biggrin: