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Alleycat_99
12-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Y do people say MH uses a lot of power?? Wouldn't 250watt MH and 250 watts of T5HO use the same?? Amount of Electricity

Black Phantom
12-28-2010, 02:28 PM
They are the same. Sort of like 100 pounds of lead and 100 pounds of feathers.:biggrin:

reefwars
12-28-2010, 02:31 PM
Y do people say MH uses a lot of power?? Wouldn't 250watt MH and 250 watts of T5HO use the same?? Amount of Electricity


they use more power because you usually need more halides compared to less t5,s......say on a 4ft tank you would want 2 x 250w halides while you could easily get away with a 4x 54w t5s.......on a 24" tank you would only need one halide but you could still use the same 4 bulb as before.so its all compared to the size of the area you want to l;ight and how many lights you are running.

im not sure on the comparison between 250w of halide vs 250w of t5 thanks:)

phi delt reefer
12-28-2010, 02:39 PM
heres why;

example;

a tank has a 48"x12" foot and is 18" deep would need two 250w halides which is 500w.

the same tank would need 4 48" t5 bulbs (54w a pop) - so thats 216w.

phi delt reefer
12-28-2010, 02:40 PM
omg we posted the same THING! i swear your post wasnt there when wrote mine! LOL

Aquattro
12-28-2010, 02:46 PM
a tank has a 48"x12" foot and is 18" deep would need two 250w halides which is 500w.

the same tank would need 4 48" t5 bulbs (54w a pop) - so thats 216w.

Well, a bit subjective here. The tank in question doesn't "need" 500w, only if you're using 250s. You could easily light the same tank with 2 x 70w, or 2 x 150w. Now this addresses light spread and coverage. What is in the tank may have different needs. I don't use T5s, but 4 x 54w seems low if I'm running an 18" clam tank. I would think that more than 4 tubes is "needed" . I could be mistaken, as I said, I don't use them, but "need" is a subjective term.
In comparison for cost, you need to compare costs of bulbs over time, costs of power, for MH, costs of cooling any heat generated. I know my chiller currently costs almost as much as running a second set of T5s :)

Black Phantom
12-28-2010, 02:48 PM
I don't want to split hairs :Banane34: but arent we supposed to be comparing 250 watts to 250 watts.

Aquattro
12-28-2010, 02:52 PM
I don't want to split hairs :Banane34: but arent we supposed to be comparing 250 watts to 250 watts.

Yes, I think the original question was comparing watts of equal output.

Alleycat_99
12-28-2010, 03:01 PM
Ok I have a cube tank 24x24 by 30 high I have 2 175 watt MH mogul I can use or buy a t5 fixture. Goiing to have a mixed reef.so am I gunna consume more power with MH of t5 same wattage 350watts

Aquattro
12-28-2010, 03:04 PM
On that size tank, I'd probably just use the 1 MH. It will cover a 24x24 area. At 30" deep, you'd need to keep more light demanding critters higher up.

reefwars
12-28-2010, 03:07 PM
On that size tank, I'd probably just use the 1 MH. It will cover a 24x24 area. At 30" deep, you'd need to keep more light demanding critters higher up.



agreed one halide is fine on that tank :)

StirCrazy
12-28-2010, 03:49 PM
250 watt MH will use slightly more than 250 watt T5 if both are electronic ballasts, if the MH is a magnetic ballasts then the MH will draw between 300 and 400 watts.

as comented above about 200ish watts of T5 being the same as 500 wats of MH, I almost rolled on the floor laughing. there not even close. yes visualy they will apear simmular if they are on different tanks, except the T5 tank will have no shimmer and look flat, as far a PAR goes you cannot get enough T5's on a tank to equal the PAR of a good 250 watt set up.


Steve

amoreira
12-28-2010, 03:55 PM
LED would be the best, if you can afford it. They're dimmable and have no waste heat. Go for the Vertex or the AquaIllumination models. 80 watts per foot on both, so you'd be consuming 160 watts maximum (probably running around 50% output, so make that 80 watts).

Alleycat_99
12-28-2010, 04:19 PM
Thanks for the feed back

cuz
12-28-2010, 04:58 PM
or.... a new 250w halide from some random fellow reefer!!:twised:

reefwars
12-28-2010, 05:13 PM
250 watt MH will use slightly more than 250 watt T5 if both are electronic ballasts, if the MH is a magnetic ballasts then the MH will draw between 300 and 400 watts.

as comented above about 200ish watts of T5 being the same as 500 wats of MH, I almost rolled on the floor laughing. there not even close. yes visualy they will apear simmular if they are on different tanks, except the T5 tank will have no shimmer and look flat, as far a PAR goes you cannot get enough T5's on a tank to equal the PAR of a good 250 watt set up.


Steve



I'm still having trouble trying to find where someone said 200w of t5's are the same as 500w of halides if it's in regards to my comment I said they can light the same tank not use the same power or par, but then again I'm still on my morning coffee maybe I'm missing something lol:)