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Delphinus
12-12-2003, 12:24 AM
... What do you notice first, do you notice the inlet pressure start to drop, or do you notice the bubble rate start to slow down every so often?

pocilipora
12-12-2003, 12:40 AM
You notice the preasure guage preasure drop. Once the guage starts going down, there isnt much gas left anyways. :eek: You wont get very many days out of your tank once the preasure starts to drop.

Jason McK
12-12-2003, 01:33 AM
How long (I know it will be different for every system) does the 10lbs tanks usually last?

J

Delphinus
12-12-2003, 01:48 AM
Hmm, re-reading my question, I missed a little detail. It should read, "do you first notice your guage readings drop, or do you first notice the bubble rate slow ?" Sorry about that.

My cylinder is a 20lb. Filled it about 13 months ago. The bubble rate slows at night (only at night). So every morning I open my needle valve a wee tiny bit to compensate. Then it's fine all day, check it again at night, still fine, but by morning it will have slowed again so I open the needle valve a little tiny bit more, and so on. It can slow as much as half, which to me seems a significant rate change.

Going on like this for almost two weeks now.

But the inlet pressure hasn't budged. Still reads 800psi, same as it's ever been since it was filled. Maybe the guage is stuck.

My needle valve is incredibly fussy. Like, if you so much as touch the valve, it will change the bubble rate even though the valve position does not change. Is this normal, are they all like this? Or is this goofy. I run my outlet pressure at about 20psi.

pocilipora
12-12-2003, 01:50 AM
It depends on how much demand for calcium and cabonates your tank has. The more Co2 you use, the more you can get from your reactor. I had a 10lb tank last over a year and a half. But that didnt last once my corals started growing.

trilinearmipmap
12-12-2003, 01:54 AM
As far as I understand, when your CO2 tank is approaching empty the bubble rate should increase. Something to do with the way the regulator works, anyway can someone let me know if this is right?

Andy
12-12-2003, 04:01 AM
When my CO2 tank is nearly empty, I notice an increase in the bubble rate. Happens every time.

Delphinus
12-12-2003, 05:32 AM
An increase. Hmmm. :confused: Someone is filling my cylinder with more CO2 then in the middle of the night ??? Gremlins!

No other theories on a mysterious bubble rate slowdown? Happens only at night ... happens every night ... and every day the needle valve opens a tiny wee bit more to compensate. Sooner or later I'm going to get to the end of the needle valve .......

EmilyB
12-12-2003, 05:42 AM
I dunno....kari said the needle will drop suddenly and then you go for a refill.....

:mrgreen: :razz:

Aquattro
12-12-2003, 06:32 AM
Tony, I would double check for any leaks in the system.

kari
12-12-2003, 12:23 PM
Could an ambient temp change cause it?? Is your wife posting on another board wondering why the bubble count seems to be going up every morning :biggrin:
My valve is so sensitive that I have to hold my breathe when I adjust it. Also difficult to get the bpm when its over 100.

Tony, (I really don't want to say this and don't know how phrase it better but ) have you tried tightening the two nuts behind the knob. Ya, laugh it up!

Delphinus
12-12-2003, 03:33 PM
My first thought was ambient temperature too. But you'd think the rate would return to normal when the ambient temperature went back to normal? (Or go to a higher rate since the needle valve was opened a bit.) This doesn't happen. :confused:

Do you (should you) teflon any of your joins?

What's a good way to check for leaks? Soapy water?

kari
12-13-2003, 03:39 AM
What's a good way to check for leaks? Soapy water?

Thats what I have always used. Lots of soap makes big bubbles with even the smallest leak. Thats still weird with the drop in pressure of co2 output over a 12hr period. Did you snug up the nuts or even mark the position of the knob to rule out valve turning?